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December 12, 2003The Battle of Thunder Runby Joe Katzman at December 12, 2003 12:11 AM
We wrote at the time about "The Battle of Curly, Larry, and Moe." Now Trent Telenko directs our attention to an L.A. Times Magazine piece that reconstructs the pivotal battle of Operation Iraqi Freedom - one the Americans almost didn't win (login: laexaminer / laexaminer). The biggest factor in their success? Surprisingly, it may have been Iraq's infamous Information Minister: "Nine hundred and seventy-five men invading a city of 5 million sounded audacious, or worse, to the U.S. troops assigned the mission outside Baghdad last April 6. Ten years earlier, in Mogadishu, outnumbered American soldiers had been trapped and killed by Somali street fighters. Now some U.S. commanders, convinced the odds were far better in Iraq, scrapped the original plan for taking Baghdad with a steady siege and instead ordered a single bold thrust into the city. The battle that followed became the climax of the war and rewrote American military doctrine on urban warfare. "L’audace, l’audace, toujours l’audace." This time, it was the right call. Read David Zucchino's "The Thunder Run" in full, and you'll find a true story that few fictional thrillers could match. UPDATE: See also Gizmag's May 3, 2005 article "Heavy Metal - A Tank Company's Battle to Baghdad" Tracked: December 12, 2003 11:28 PM
The Three Stoogies Of Victory from Sgt. Stryker's Daily Briefing
Excerpt: I posted a small tidbit on the battle of the Three Stoogies in Baghdad last June (here). However, Joe Katzman has the skinney on the battle Trent Trelinko claims "will replace the 'Battle of 73 Easting' as the most studied ground engagement in U.S. His...
Tracked: August 11, 2005 11:12 AM
$147.3M for Bradley IFV Resets & Conversions from Defense Industry Daily
Excerpt: M6 Linebacker, Iraq The U.S. Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command in Warren, MI has issued a pair of contracts for the RESET (restoration of used vehicles to like-new condition) of Bradley Armored Fighting vehicles. One contract will reset 101 Br...
Tracked: October 11, 2005 5:30 AM
M1126 Strykers in Combat: Experiences & Lessons from Defense Industry Daily
Excerpt: M1126 Stryker ICV DID has covered the Stryker vehicle before, most notably for the unexpectedly positive reviews the nonpartisan Project On Government Oversight received when it spoke to soldiers who served in them and appreciated the vehicles' capabil...
Tracked: April 14, 2006 4:34 PM
M1126 Strykers in Combat: Experiences & Lessons from Defense Industry Daily
Excerpt: Stryker ICV, Korea(click to view full) DID has covered the Stryker vehicle before, most notably for the unexpectedly positive reviews the nonpartisan Project On Government Oversight received when it spoke to soldiers who served in them and appreciated ...
Tracked: September 24, 2006 8:00 PM
GD-RAFAEL's Reactive Armor Equips US Military (updated) from Defense Industry Daily
Excerpt: Up-armored M3A3s in Iraq(click to view full) The USA's M2/M3 Bradley Fighting Vehicles have played a central role in armed operations in Iraq. Many of them are now doing it with special reactive applique armor tiles that significantly improve their...
Comments
Awesome article. Makes me appreciate our men in uniform all that much more. I still don't understand--larger questions aside--why we didn't just bomb the building in Mogadishu. I still don't understand--larger questions aside--why we didn't just bomb the building in Mogadishu. Praktike, Given than our boys were denied armor for political reasons ("too provacative"), it isn't that surprising that we didn't blow up the building, with the attendant "civilian" casualties, etc.
#5 from Ron at 4:53 pm on Dec 12, 2003
While this may have rewrote American military doctrine on urban warfare, isn't that an Israeli tactic? Fight urban from the center out.
#6 from M. Simon at 7:57 pm on Dec 12, 2003
Note the snarky comment at the end of an otherwise great article.
#7 from FH at 11:40 pm on Dec 12, 2003
Seems to me that if this tactic is to be applied in the future, greater care needs to be taken to cover the supply lanes. If the Arabs were more competetent, they would have been able to cut the US forces off and then use attrition and friction to their advantage. Very dangerous move, if you ask me. I believe that there was something similar during WW2, on one of the Islands in the pacific theater, where US forces almost got cut off from supplies.
#8 from rt at 2:33 am on Dec 13, 2003
"... the last one in Iraq for a long time." snarky is an understatement. otherwise, that article was straight, factual and right to the point. that whole article is a jerry bruckhiemer film just beggin' to be made.
#9 from Tom K at 6:20 pm on Dec 13, 2003
praktike: I still don't understand--larger questions aside--why we didn't just bomb the building in Mogadishu. For the same reason we weren't allowed to use indirect fires (ie: mortars, arty) - political timidity in the face of potential civilian casualties, and a fear that we might be seen to be escalating the situation into something resembling a war rather than a "humanitarian" mission. Not commenting on the quality of these decisions, only the basis for them. The Abramses and Bradleys performed excellent. The problem with supplies is that its carried out by soft-skin wheeled vehicles. What is needed is tracked armored supply vehicles. If you have survivable supply vehicles then there would have been no danger in being cut-off from supplies.
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