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January 25, 2005Robi & Nitin's Indian Ocean Horizons: 2005-1-25by Robi Sen at January 25, 2005 3:55 AM
Winds of Change.NET Regional Briefings run on Tuesdays & Wednesdays, and sometimes Fridays too. This Regional Briefing focuses on South Asia, courtesy of Robi Sen and Nitin Pai of The Acorn. Special Note: Obviously the top story of the last two months has to be the tsunami and is a topic that deserves its own special attention and post. This month we will focus on other important events in the area. BOILING BALOCHISTAN
Other Issues Include: Pakistan - Disputes everywhere; India - Pins, needles and a million matinees; Shifting Alliances; The Worlds Most Dangerous Man; Bangladesh gets lucky; Setting up governments is hard - Maldives elects a new parliament while Nepal does not. PAKISTAN - DISPUTES EVERYWHERE
INDIA - PINS AND NEEDLES
INDIA - A MILLION MATINEES NOW
Shifting Alliances
The World's Most Dangerous Man: A.Q. Khan Watch
BANGLADESH - GETS LUCKY
MAKING GOVERNMENTS - DIFFICULT IN ALL SIZES
Miscellaneous
Tracked: January 25, 2005 6:58 AM
Indian Ocean Horizons at Winds of Change from The Acorn
Excerpt: A million matinees now
Starting this month, the monthly round-up of South Asian events and their wider implications on Winds of Change has been renamed Indian Ocean Horizons.
This month, Robi and I cover: Boiling Balochistan; Pakistan - Disputes...
Tracked: January 25, 2005 10:04 AM
But What is the Solution? from Seriously Sandeep
Excerpt: Rajmohan's op-ed sounds promising but ends flat on its face. The author oversimplifies and generalizes, and in the end, doesn't offer any solution. For example, he intersperses the article liberally with several clichés: 1. India has begun to find...
Tracked: January 25, 2005 10:09 AM
On the "Next Islamic Revolution" from Gene Expression
Excerpt: As I noted a few days ago The New York Times Magazine sent an intrepid journalist to chronicle the rise of Islamism in Bangladesh. This story is getting some play on the web, Winds of Change and Little Green Footballs...
Tracked: January 25, 2005 10:38 AM
Asia by Blog from Simon World
Excerpt: Asia by Blog is a twice weekly feature, usually posted on Monday and Thursday, providing links to Asian blogs and their views on the news in this fascinating region. Previous editions can be found here. The round-up has four key areas of focus: China, ...
Comments
#1 from praktike at 3:07 pm on Jan 25, 2005
One thing that the Bush administration deserves credit for is managing to tilt both toward India and Pakistan at the same time. Now that's a neat trick. Of course, it was an area largely left to Powell and Armitage, and hence it wasn't screwed up.
#2 from Mark Buehner at 4:00 pm on Jan 25, 2005
Agreed. Nothing short of miraculous really. I would kill to have been a fly on the wall at Powells first meeting with Mushariff after 911. Also Tommy Franks had a sit down with him as i recall. You might want to read some of our older posts here at Windsofchange. Its hard to tell and be sure but we have some critical comments for Powell in that he seems to have believed Musharraf and been taking in by a lot of his promises which latter turned out to be false. One may make the case that things have gone well despite Powell. At the same time it is hard to make these sorts of analysis just based on open source materials.
#4 from praktike at 5:46 pm on Jan 25, 2005
Actually, Mark, it was Armitage who delivered the message ... one of his standard jobs, given his forceful physical presence. Robi, I did read your comments on Powell and IIRC I disagreed with them slightly at the time and do so now. Nitin, IIRC, was also a bit peeved at Powell taking credit for things that were worked out on a bilateral basis. You guys have to admit that you have a small anti-Pakistan bias, so I tend to discount that. Ohh I would not say I am anti-Pakistan and I have several Pakistani friends and at one time even had a Pakistani girlfriend. I can not speak for Nitin but I am not very comfortable with Musharraf and I am extremely uncomfortable with the IIS. I think you are correct that I am biased and I do tend to see Musharraf, Pakistan's military, and the IIS in a negative light but we have also been pretty good about pointing out when Pakistan has helped and assisted the U.S. although the motives are usually self serving, which only makes sense. I have also pointed out that while Pakistan has taken much of the blame for nuclear proliferation if anything the Chinese are far worse. Indeed there is plenty of evidence that the Chinese government was providing support for the Khan network far and above that Pakistan's military provided. As for Powell I have not made up my mind about him. I think in general he is a good person but I think he has been a rather poor Secretary of State especially in regards to Africa. I think this article by Christopher Hitchens sums up many of my feelings about Powll http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=2708&print=1.
#6 from praktike at 9:01 pm on Jan 25, 2005
Cool, like I said, it's small. I have actually learned a lot from you guys. Heck, you may even be right and completely justified in being anti-Musharraf and down on Pakistan generally. But you're certainly no Pak Postive! Regarding Darfur, no doubt the United States could have save a lot of lives there. But unfortunately we had other priorities.
#7 from Tom at 9:45 pm on Jan 25, 2005
Sounds like a great time to get ahead of the curve and start some back channel talks with the pro-democracy group Woah! Amazing compendium - almost like a week's newspaper. Great job guys Praktike, I have no problems admitting that I have an anti-Pakistan bias; and will continue to do so until that country stops being a threat to its neighbours, and indeed to the rest of the world. But I must qualify that by saying that rather than an antipathy towards the country or its people, I am opposed to the Pakistani military and its nexus with jihadi terrorists. I think it is a shame NOT to be biased against a state that sponsored terrorism and nuclear proliferation; and is unrepentent over it. And I think it is a shame that the opposition parties in Ukraine get moral support and more; while democratic oppositions in Pakistan have to make do with exile (and worse). And I think the Bush administration cannot simultaneously talk about "evil" and "tyranny" and at the same time tilt towards Pakistan (or Saudi Arabia).
#10 from Xofis at 8:41 pm on Jan 26, 2005
Saying you have an anti-Musharaff/ISI bias is like saying you have an anti-Al Qaeda 'bias.' Yes I suppose it is and your point? There are plenty of apologist and supporters of both. I admit a bias in that I think that Musharraf has done things that help the U.S. for example but I think he has always done it for cynical reasons rather than being a real ally. There are people in U.S. government, especially State, who seem have a much more pro Musharraf stance and tend to see his actions in a much more positive light.
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