I saw the comment by Mark Buehner in the comments of Tom's post describing possible US military options with respect to Syria. The newest Iraqi confessions came up in the comments, in particular the one that purportedly features a Syrian intelligence official claiming that he was sent into Iraq at the behest of his superiors back in 2001.
Mark comments:
Two years before the invasion, Syria was convinced the US was going to invade and sent intelligence teams trained in guerilla war into Iraq? First of all, Hussein would surely never have allowed this. Hussein had little love loss with the Syrian baathists who sided against him in GW1. Hussein always feared a coup more than a US invasion and for the life of me those teams look as capable of undermining Hussein as the US, particularly 2 years before a speculative war. That leaves the possibility that they snuck into Husseins police state which is possible but extremely dangerous. Furthermore, if Syria was convinced of US resolve to take on Hussein, why would they risk inciting the Americans they feared so much so blatently?
These are good questions and I think he's a little less dismissive of them than Juan Cole's knee-jerk reaction to their appearance and I'll do my best to answer them, though I still want to hear a straight answer from our intelligence agencies on this stuff rather than the punditariat (myself included). Are they not commenting on this information because they agree with it or because they're just dismissing it off-hand. We are working hand-in-hand with the Iraqis to root out the insurgency, so we must have some idea as to the credibility of these claims. If it isn't true, then why are US-backed Iraqi TV stations broadcasting it? Isn't it hypocritical to bash al-Jazeera and other Arab satellite TV stations for their own falsehoods while initiating this kind of incitement?
First of all, I have yet to see a transcript of this tape, which I'll be quite honest that I would prefer far more than the AP's summary of it (which is why MEMRI translating the statements of the Iraqi Jaish Mohammed leader was so helpful from an analytical perspective) given the wire service's past track records with statements by al-Qaeda leader. If you have a transcript, please e-mail me ASAP.
The Syrian intelligence officer in question is Lieutenant Anas Ahmed al-Isa (Essa) and here are the claims he makes according to the wire story:
1. He trained Iraqi insurgents in decapitation and the building of car bombs. An Iraqi insurgent claims that they had practiced beheading animals to train for doing the same to hostages.
If al-Isa is in fact a member of the Syrian Idarat al-Amn al-Amm (IAA)'s external wing, it would make sense that he would be in a position to train Iraqis to carry out car bombings. Keep in mind that most of Iraqi Baathist and native Islamist forces are made up in no small part of former soldiers and hence would not have been trained in terrorist techniques. Practicing decapitating animals as a means of psychologically conditioning someone to do the same to the humans has been used by both al-Qaeda (including the 9/11 hijackers) and the Algerian GIA, so I don't find that too terribly hard to swallow.
2. Al-Isa had been instructed by his superiors to assist the Iraqi insurgency to prevent the US from reaching Syria.
That would fit with both Syrian paranoia and the widespread belief in both European and anti-war circles that the US intends to pursue another military campaign against either Syria or Iran in the near future. As long as the US remains tied down in Iraq fighting the insurgency, this objective will remain untenable, which is probably the best argument for both Syrian and Iranian involvement in the insurgency for those who are still in the skeptical category. If you were Bashar al-Assad, would not continued violence in Iraq not serve as a check on the US ever coming after you?
3. Al-Isa received instructions from Syrian intelligence.
Okay. Who's the "we" he's referencing here? His insurgent group? Other IAA officers based in Iraq? This is one of the reasons why I tend to prefer transcripts to press reports on this stuff.
4. An Iraqi intelligence officer appeared and named a number of groups he claimed were Syrian fronts.
Okay. Which ones? The AP story seems to be misreporting this - the Iraqi intelligence officer says there are a bunch of Syrian front groups active inside Iraq and then proceeds to name them. But we have no idea which ones from the wire story ...
5. Al-Isa said that he was the leader of the Jaish al-Fatah (the Army of Conquest), a new insurgent group.
There's been a veritable alphabet soup of Iraqi groups, Zarqawi himself actually leads a coalition of more than half a dozen major groups. They're probably better classified by who they work for than by name, since my guess would be that Jaish al-Fatah is probably just what we would call a terrorist or guerrilla cell with their own specific flavor.
6. Al-Isa was one of 11 men claiming they were recruited by Syrian intelligence to carry out attacks inside Iraq.
I thought al-Isa was a Syrian intelligence officer. So what gives?
7. Al-Isa said that he needed money, which is why he accepted an offer by Colonel Fadi Abdullah to carry out attacks inside Iraq.
So I take it he volunteered for the assignment, then?
8. Al-Isa was trained for 1 year in explosives, assassination, spying, and kidnapping before being sent into Iraq.
He claims later on that he infiltrated into Iraq in 2001, so that would put his training at some point in the 2000 to early 2001 time frame (i.e. quite possibly prior to the death of Hafiz al-Assad!). That's quite aways back, which is a pretty incredible claim in of itself and one of the reasons why I am so torn between just dismissing this off-hand and accepting it on the basis this is too incredible to be made up. In order for propaganda to be believeable, it has to be plausible, while a surface reading of this stuff would likely render it neither simply on the basis of conventional wisdom. This is one of the reasons why I want to hear US intelligence weigh in on this stuff, because we look like idiots for having our station of choice air this stuff unless we consider it at least partially credible. And before somebody says "we're airing it because it fits the insidious neocon agenda!" let me point out that we're airing this to an Iraqi, not an American audience, and that according to most standard renditions of anti-war mythology the neocons are supposed to be quite adept at deception, that's how they allegedly snookered us into going to war with Iraq to begin with. The fact that a former AEI intern could write up a far more plausible sounding propaganda to those familiar with the conventional wisdom on this stuff is one of the reasons I am tempted not to dismiss it as such.
9. Al-Isa infiltrated into Iraq back in 2001 because Syrian intelligence feared that a US invasion was imminent.
There are no dates provided here, but if we're talking after 9/11 here I could actually buy that one. Remember, Iraq was the only nation that refused to condemn the terrorist attacks and the circumstances surrounding Farouk Hijazi's meeting with bin Laden in Afghanistan in late 1998 and 1999 seems to have been ambiguous enough for Richard Clarke to have feared that if the US attacked Afghanistan bin Laden would flee to Baghdad. Assuming the Syrians were familiar enough with these reports, they may have feared that the US would try to attack Iraq in concert with Afghanistan to cut off any avenue of escape for the al-Qaeda leadership or to prevent Saddam from exploiting the situation (OEF in Afghanistan was initially viewed as being a long, drawn-out campaign analogous to the Soviet experience by many an analyst or pundit) - approaches that were in fact advocated at senior levels of the DOD according to the 9/11 Commission report. This would seem to suggest to me that al-Isa infiltrated into Iraq given that Syria feared imminent military action and remained a "sleeper" for about 2 years before being activated in the wake of OIF in 2003 if not later.
10. Shawan al-Sabaawi, a former lieutenant colonel in the Iraqi army, claimed that he had received training in beheadings from Syrian intelligence and that Jaish al-Fatah initially started using car bombs to target US and Iraqi troops before launching their kidnapping and murder campaign.
Makes sense. The people you're kidnapping are less likely to shoot back ...
11. Al-Isa sent a report on the group's progress to Syria.
To whom, the Baathist leadership living in exile there or the IAA? If the former, than this wouldn't be too surprising given statements by US military officials that the Syrian Baathists are exercising command and control over the insurgency.
12. Al-Isa claimed that he received weapons, explosives, and money from Syrian intelligence.
I thought Iraq was awash with both of the former, but okay ...
This other AP story adds some more details.
13. Al-Isa is from Halab.
Halab is both a city and a province in Syria. I'd also be kind of interested in knowing whether or not al-Isa is an Alawite, as that might tell us just how high up in the pecking order he comes from in Syria.
14. Shehab al-Sabaawi, al-Isa's Iraqi aide, said that he was recruited at an Iraqi mosque in 2001 by Jaish al-Fatah leader Abu Bakr.
I thought that al-Isa said earlier that he was the leader of Jaish al-Fatah? So is Abu Bakr dead or captured? I'm genuinely curious, because this sounds suspiciously like Abu Bakr (a kuniyat if I ever heard one) is an al-Qaeda recruiter. Note that al-Sabaawi doesn't even mention the Syrians as being involved in Jaish al-Fatah from the wire story, they come in later in 2003.
15. Abu Bakr offered to take al-Sabaawi to Pakistan, where he could receive terrorist training.
The reference to going to Pakistan (Islamabad specifically) for terrorist training sounds rather suspiciously like what happened with French/Australian al-Qaeda operative Willie Virgile Brigitte, which kind of raises al-Sabaawi's credibility for me. He doesn't, however, say what he was planning on doing with these skills.
16. Al-Sabaawi was in Pakistan for 11 months and received terrorist training there.
If I had to guess, my money would be on the LeT. All the same, al-Sabaawi is described as a former Iraqi lieutenant colonel and if he was in the army when he met up with Abu Bakr I don't imagine that you could just leave your post to receive terrorist training in Pakistan without authorization from somebody higher up. This is getting interesting ...
17. Al-Sabaawi went to Syria for a month after Saddam's overthrow in 2003, where he learned how to behead hostages under the supervision of Syrian intelligence.
Juan Cole, predictably, dismisses this with the following:
Another confessed terrorist said he was sent to Pakistan for training and then Syria. Oh, now we have a Baath-Islamist axis again. Sure. Shiite secular Arab nationalists are just dying to get up a collaboration with non-Arab Pakistani hyper-Sunnis who paint "Kill the Shiites" on their mini-buses in Lahore.
With all due respect to the Master and Commander of Arabic™, that doesn't appear to be the case. From the information available here, it looks like al-Sabaawi fled to Syria with the other Baathist remnants after Saddam was overthrown. Ignoring that the LeT, who is the most likely candidate to have trained him, has always steered clear of anti-Shi'ite activities in Pakistan, al-Sabaawi was likely there because of his status in the former Iraqi military rather than any Islamist credentials he might have. So what we're talking about here is Baath helping Baath, though someone might want to tell Cole that Syria sponsors Sunni Islamist groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad as well as Imamiyyah Shi'ites like Hezbollah as part of furthering its ambitions with respect to Lebanon and Israel.
So, back to Mark's comments:
Two years before the invasion, Syria was convinced the US was going to invade and sent intelligence teams trained in guerilla war into Iraq? First of all, Hussein would surely never have allowed this. Hussein had little love loss with the Syrian baathists who sided against him in GW1. Hussein always feared a coup more than a US invasion and for the life of me those teams look as capable of undermining Hussein as the US, particularly 2 years before a speculative war. That leaves the possibility that they snuck into Husseins police state which is possible but extremely dangerous. Furthermore, if Syria was convinced of US resolve to take on Hussein, why would they risk inciting the Americans they feared so much so blatently?
From the way I read this, al-Isa went into Iraq in 2001 because his superiors thought that the US was getting ready to attack (in response to 9/11?) and wanted to start a guerrilla war there to keep us busy so we wouldn't come after them. When the US attack didn't occur, he continued serving there as a "sleeper" until OIF, at which point he came out of the woodwork again and started carrying out his orders.
Al-Sabaawi seems to be an Iraqi (military officer?) who got recruited by al-Qaeda, trained in Pakistan, and then resumed his role (as a sleeper?) in the Iraqi military. After OIF, he fled with the other Baathists into Syria, got help from the IAA, and then went back to settle the score. If I had to pick between the two, al-Sabaawi's strikes me as being the more plausible since a lot of it jives with the cases of Brigitte, Hicks, and other cases of al-Qaeda recruits who got trained by the LeT.
These are not certainties, of course, but I would argue it is more likely that these teams were either free lancers who fell into one of the local groups control, or were recruited by Iraqi baathists before or after the war and not by the Assad government at all.
Maybe, maybe not, that's why I'd really like some of our intel guys to weigh in on this.
Torture victims will say anything you want them to say, or make up any story they think will be believable. Imo, the preponderence of the evidence is that this confession is just to convenient and defies common sense too much to be taken at face value.
Actually, it's the fact that some of this stuff is so incredible that I'm having such a hard time just dismissing it. If it's supposed to be propaganda then it's a pretty crappy job and if I heard that from someone I was torturing (which we don't have any proof occurred in this instance, I would add) I would dismiss it off-hand as a cheap lie that al-Isa made up to save himself.
Assad would have to be mad to be actively directing these insurgents. I have no doubt that plenty of Syrians are involved and Syrian resources and land are in use, but I would require more direct proof than a confession to declare this an act of war.
I'd need somebody to verify al-Isa's confession, myself, and there are ways of doing this, such as through narco-interrogation and other methods that have successfully obtained information from Abu Zubaydah. While such statements are not going to hold up in court, they should be enough to verify the veracity of such claims one way or another. That's one of the reasons why the case of certain statements made by Ibn Sheikh al-Libi aren't nearly as clear-cut as some would like them to be.
And why the silence from the WH?
There's no silence, administration and military officials (as well as Iraqi officials) have long been consistent in their statements that Syria and Iran, or elements in both countries, or however many other hairs you want to split, are involved to varying degrees with the Iraqi insurgency. In most cases, they haven't gotten into specifics but there's more than enough press reporting on the subject for us to draw our own conclusions. As for why they haven't highlighted it to extent that they did say, the perceived Iraqi threat from late 2002 to early 2003, it's due to the simple reality that they aren't going to initiate military action against either nation for a whole host of reasons, many of them discussed in various postings on this blog. If and when military action is needed at some point further down the line, I'm more than confident that we've amassed more than enough in terms of causi bellis. Indeed, I strongly suspect that both nations' support for the Iraqi insurgency is due to the fact that in the event the US stabilizes Iraq that they are the next ones on the chopping block.
UPDATE: MEMRI TV has a transcript excerpt of al-Isa and al-Sabaawi. Interestingly, there's nothing in this excerpt about 2001 or al-Isa being a Syrian intelligence officer. Anybody here got the whole thing?








I'll be the first to admit im utterly confused by this story and Syria's involvement level as a whole. Mainly it is the timeframe that bugs me with this specific confession. It may seem reasonable in retrospect, but things have changed so radically in the ME in the last 3 years that I fear we are making assumptions based on what we know today. In 2001, sending armed sabateurs into neighboring states for any reason would have been seen in a much different light than today.
My gut reaction is that this is a coerced confession and this thug just started spinning yarns to please his captors. Recall some of the crazy things our own POWs were made to say in Vietnam. Its not so simple as reading a script, which is why i am not convinced by the argument that this story is too wild not to be true. If this guy being busted on, you would expect some outrageous story to emerge because the more intricate the story the more valuable he seems and hence the more time he buys himself. Im not an expert on torture, but this seems to jive with what i do know. Note: I have no evidence this clown is being tortured, but i dont think any of us believe he's staying at the Baghdad Hilton. The Iraqi police dont have the constraints our forces do.
Not that they show any constrains
Dan,
Consider that you might err in thinking all of a story has to be true for any of it to be true. We are dealing with mendacious spooks and clueless newsies.
I suggest you read Strategy Page regularly for Iraq coverage. Direct Syrian intelligence participation in attacking civilians and allied forces in Iraq is neither new nor news. Only publically aired confessions of it are news.
"Consider that you might err in thinking all of a story has to be true for any of it to be true."
Its also possible this guy's story is BS but the jist of it is true. False but accurate? CBS should be all over this ;)
No Marc, that parts are true and others aren't. The guy can also be mistaken about some things, parts of the translation might be off, and parts or all of the tape might be edited.
We're in a wilderness of mirrors here. The important part of what he said is likely true (that Syrian officers are directly attacking Allied forces in Iraq) because there is much other evidence of this cited on Strategy Page. The only thing which is new about it is that this guy just publically admitted to it, probably under duress.
This is intelligence work, not what would be legal evidence in an American trial court. If you really want certainty in life, you have to die. Otherwise it's just probabilities, with some things being more probable than others.
Given the hard-to-believe aspects of parts of these tales, the first questions have to be about what can be cross-checked--which elements can be declared false with reasonable certainty; which seem to be true? What remains as plausible-but-unverifiable?
The transcripts of the TV interviews are key.
So the person identified as Anas Ahmed al-Isa (Essa) claims to be a Syrian from Halad (city or province). He must have family and acquaintances. The Syrian Government denies the whole story; surely they wouldn't object to the real al-Isa and his family being located and interviewed. Or perhaps they would...
If he's been in Iraq for >3 years, he's been someplace specific and dealt with people. Where, and who?
And so on. The fact that Juan Cole dismisses this story is evidence in favor of its truthfulness, but hardly probative. Even Cole will get Iraqi-politics issues right from time to time.
Try not to post Juan cole. He has done enough to reduce his own crediblity. Your mentioning him hurts yours by default.
Agree with AMac. He must have the names of the guys who trained him, hometowns, backgrounds, etc. Those are the details that should be run down before this story can be accepted as true. Respectfully I think Tom is overrating the evidence of direct Syrian intelligence involvement in the insurgency. Obviously reasonable doubt isnt the standard, but on the other hand if this is true a state of war exists and that is deadly serious business that requires more than anacdotal evidence. Give me names and ranks and places and dates. To begin with.
Otoh, we should be taking this threat very seriously and attacking the connection insofar as it exists in every way possible. Sealing the border would have been a good idea 2 years ago. Now its an embarassment.
Mark,
It is normal in the Middle East for rulers to encourage their crazies to go get killed someplace else. The Syrians were known to be doing that shortly after our invasion, as were the Saudis and Iranians. Most of those crazies were Syrians because they had easier access to Iraq. Then the Syrian regime looked the other way as a lot of non-Syrians came through too.
But the Syrian regime was, and is, also helping us against Al Qaeda. The amount of aid has varied over time. At least once it was significant.
The Syrians drew a distinction between Al Qaeda and some other groups, notably Iraq's Baathists. The Baathists they helped against us, as they did with some other groups. And they helped us a bit against a few groups not known to be affiliated with Al Qaeda. Furthermore they are not entirely in control of their own territory. That they exaggerate the latter a lot doesn't mean, however, that they don't have a genuine problem either. Syrian corruption has much to do with this as well.
The situation is not simple. Iraq's border with Syria has been the primary means by which Iraqi Baathist and foreign terrorists enter Iraq. Syria has for two years hosted, and provided operating sanctuaries for, Iraqi Baathist and some non-Iraqi terrorists to operate against Allied forces and civilians in Iraq. At the same time it has been useful to us concerning Al Qaeda, while helping Al Qaeda against other Arab governments it dislikes (notably Jordan).
Where I and many others draw the line is overt participation by Syrian personnel in Iraq in attacks on Allied forces and Iraqi civilians. That has been going on now for at least months.
My guess is that the journalist, who spends most of the article dismissing the VERY IDEA that these tv faces belong to real terrorists, was sloppy, and substracted one from three and got two years.
But there were thousands of terrorists and intelligence officers infiltrated into Iraq starting right after the liberation of Afghanistan, late in 2001. I wrote about it at the time, in fact. And yes, it was certainly unusual to have syrian intel officers operating in iraq, but no less unusual, surely, than to have aircraft flying peacefully and urgently back and forth between baghdad and tehran. They were planning and organizing the terror war in iraq...
So the real lead time was from nov/dec 2001 to march, 2003, just a few scratch marks this side of a year and a half.
Did Syria throw the US a bone?
Hammorabi writes "Until last few weeks [Sab'awi Ibrahem Al-Hassan Al-Tikriti (number 36 of the 55 deck cards)] was in Syria playing major role in the terrorists' activities in Iraq. It is not yet known whether he was captured after crossing the border from Syria or the Syrians asked him to leave?."
Noted at Syria Comment
One reporter told me: "I am told that the Syrians effectively handed him over to the Americans, either by kicking him out and telling the Americans, or informing the Americans where he was in Iraq." "I am also told that there might be more examples of this in the near future and that some of the senior baathists in Syria will begin leaving the country for safer destinations."
----Does this suggest the taped confessions weren't complete fabrications?
I suspect that the fractures in Assad's regime will deepen under the pressure they are facing. Assad himself appears to be way in over his head, but the hardliners from his father's regime who've been influencing him (and in some cases wielding power directly) increasingly are seen to be liabilities for him and the country now. Syria's been playing a nasty game for decades, reaping benefits from Iran and others in the region. The bill is coming due.
We don't know what bribes (financial or otherwise) were extended to Assad or other Syrian officials in the runup to the war, but they clearly are complicit now. I'm wondering when / if the newly elected Iraqi government will ask its coalition allies to join it in significant military action along the border. Or over it, given that the Syrians claim it is hard to know just where the border is or to control it.
Ideally that will come in conjunction with more internal pressure on the Ba'athist regime from Lebanese and from Syrian opposition. The Kurds there have a lot of grievances to exact payment for, to name one group.
The big question for me is whether this whole process will overextend into chaos. Much better if it simmers this side of chaos, so that discernable reform can emerge.
I find it more realistic to wonder when the Iraq goverment will ask for Syrians troops than for invading Syria. Would also be a solution for Syria's troop problem in Lebanon.
Tom Holsinger:
I do read Strategy Page and have seen the same reports you have. Nobody seems to be questioning Syrian involvement in the insurgency, merely its extent. Goss et al. didn't really address that issue, so I hope you'll forgive me in asking for more clarity from the government here ...
Yeah, but duress isn't necessarily torture and moreover even if he was tortured that doesn't necessarily make what he said untrue. In the interest of getting information, is it all that unreasonable to ask whether or not what al-Isa is saying is true.
Yep. That's the whole "juridical standards for intelligence info" canard.
AMac:
All relevant questions and from an investigative mindset (especially the Iraqis he's dealt with) probably well worth looking into.
Robert M:
Hey, he's the president of MESA and is self-declared as being better and smarter than the whole US intelligence and defense establishments (talk about your imperial hubris), at least as they relate to neocons. Moreover, his writings are semi-reliable source for all kinds of claims that are atypically relayed elsewhere given his status in certain quarters of blogosphere.
Dr. Ledeen:
That was about what I thought, but I wasn't sure so I figured I'd point it out.
And other places, IIRC those articles correctly. Iraq was certainly operating on red alert as soon as the Taliban were overthrown and I believed that Sudan, Yemen, and a number of Somali warlords were similarly concerned about US action against them. The idea that we would wait over a year before attacking a second target was nothing short of insane in those circles during the time period you laid out.
Kip:
Like I've said before, even Juan Cole accepts the idea that there might be some kind of Syrian involvement in the Iraqi insurgency. It's always been the question of how much and you can read my take on the capture of al-Hassan here.
Robin:
Good call.
a:
I think Iraq has already been quite clear what it thinks of its neighbors' meddling inside Iraq. The presence of Syrian troops would only exacerbate such things.
Well, again Assad has managed to confuse the issue further. I think that this supports my theory on what Assad is facing and how he is dealing with it. The Iraqi Baathists are a major threat to his regime as they have deadly combination of cash, experience, and desperation. Assad has tried to triangulate between his own domesticate rivals, the Iraqis, and the Americans. Until recently the Americans seemed the least imminent threat, something has apparently changed in that equation enough that Assad has taken a preemptive strike to clear out the Iraqis Baathists (or at least cut a deal with a different clique unhappy with Al-Hassan). Things are starting to move in Syria and i think we can expect a response from the Iraqis and their new jihadi allies in the near future. I agree with Robin, if Assad is taken out (or even marginalized) we could see major chaos in Syria which is not necessarilly a good thing.
Can you guess what the Iraqi's opinion is from non neighbors who meddle inside Iraq?
Mark, Syria will be a democracy within a very short time and no, that is not good news.
Thank you, my fascist friend.
Why do you call me a fascist when i am not jubilant about a Syria that is ruled by elected religious parties and still sees the US as its number one enemy.