Two articles that should probably be read alongside one another are Jeffrey Bergner's "Least Bad Iran Option in the Weekly Standard and Robin Wright's article in the Washington Post. The former argues that the European policy of engagement with respect to Iran has more or less failed, while the latter states that the US is "close" to joining the European efforts of offering incentives to Iran in return for them making a formal agreement not to develop a nuclear weapon.
I think that the key point in the Wright article is this one:
U.S. officials expect Bush to make a decision soon after Friday's meeting with key cabinet members involved in foreign policy and Vice President Cheney participating by video conference. "There's no timetable," the State Department official said, "but we're looking for a decision."
That would be this Friday, not the previous one. If I had to guess, Wright's sources (senior US officials, officials, US and European officials, a senior State Department official, a senior administration official, a US official, and European officials - all of them anonymous) are likely putting their opinion on how to deal with Iran out there in what think we can all agree is a pretty favorable form in the hopes of influencing that Friday meeting to make sure things swing their way.
Well, let's see how things are going...
While I don't agree with his conclusions, I do think that his analysis of European-Iranian relations is right on the money.
DURING HIS RECENT TRIP TO Europe, President Bush sent mixed signals about U.S. policy with regard to Iran's development of nuclear weapons. At one point he dismissed the prospect of military action as ridiculous; immediately after, he emphasized all options were on the table; then at another point he suggested there might be "convergence" between U.S. and European views on how to address the problem. If the president seemed to be all over the lot, that may be because the policy choices with respect to Iran are complex, and none is without its drawbacks.
That's true, but it's also true that most of Bush's message was pretty consistent if one looks at his rather "nuanced" view of the situation. What he dismissed when he was in Europe was the apparently widespread belief among the EU chattering classes that the US is just waiting for an excuse to go after Iran militarily. We aren't and no serious figure in the US is calling for the sacking Tehran anytime soon because of the inherent difficulties of such a military venture. That said, we are currently faced with the rather unfortunate situation in that Iran has chosen to harbor the surviving al-Qaeda leadership, provide significant logistical and operational assistance to elements of the Iraqi insurgency, and is believed by everyone, the Europeans included, to be developing nuclear weapons. This puts the US in a rather uncomfortable situation in that while we do not desire to deal with the Iranians militarily, sizeable elements appear to feel otherwise, at least by proxy, when it comes to fighting the US. So far, these proxies have been far enough away from the centers of Iranian power that the mullahs have been able to engage in a good cop/bad cop approach to the situation or (post-OIF) obfuscate to the effect that any reports of the mullahs being up to good are just more bad US intelligence or deliberate propaganda being put out by either dubious exile groups or those evil neocons with their visions of empire for the benefit of Israel. This, in effect, has given the Iranian hardliners a virtual blank check with which to support the killing of Americans, a point that I believe I noted when I discussed the elephant in the room back in November. Such policy decisions by the Iranian government are not consistent with having a peaceful relationship with the US.
As far as the Europeans are concerned, Bush seems all for anything that'll get him results on the issue of Iran. Negotiation was what made Qadaffi fold and if the Europeans can get the mullahs to do the same, I'm sure everyone reading this will be of the opinion that it's a Good Thing. The problem is, and this is the same problem that a lot of people had when it came to diplomacy with respect to Iraq, that there is a point where diplomacy solely for its own sake or for the specific purpose of stopping a US military strike becomes worthless as far as its original goal is concerned. And while I recognize that it is now a staple of anti-war mythology that Saddam was contained pre-OIF, the fact of the matter is, as Ken Pollack noted over the course of his mea culpa in The Atlantic for The Threatening Storm, that the sanctions simply were not working. If the same is true of any formal agreement that we or the Europeans sign with the mullahs, then what is the point of having it? Or is process now seen as a diplomatic end in and of itself.
Currently we are pursuing a "good cop, bad cop" option. While France, Germany, and Great Britain negotiate directly with Iran, the United States stands to the side. Washington endorses the negotiations, supports the European trio, and hopes the negotiations might find an opening to end Iran's weapons program in a way that is verifiable. Indeed, there may even be a thought that the occasional American statement that "all options are on the table" will strengthen the European negotiating position.
The idea is to make sure that the Iranians are aware that the US is not willing to tolerate them becoming a nuclear power with the current Jonestown regime running the country. To that end, the Europeans and the IAEA serve as an acceptable sideshow while the US works out inter-government differences and comes up with a stable and coherent Iran policy.
What are the likely consequences of this scenario? First, the negotiations will fail. They will fail because, despite claims to the contrary, Iran is not seeking a peaceful nuclear energy program. Iran has no need of such a program, and its actions to date are not consistent with that end. Iran is seeking to develop a nuclear weapons capability, and there is nothing the European trio can offer it to compensate for the perceived security benefits nuclear weapons would bring.
I tend to agree, but there is always hope that Rohani and Rafsanjani will see reason. There is also always hope that I will win the lottery, but I don't plan out my financial future on that basis and I don't think that the administration is either. I also disagree with Bergner's assessment that Iran is seeking nuclear weapons simply as a means of deterrence against the Great Satan. That's certainly part of it, but all of their actions to date would seem to indicate that they want to use that deterrence as a base from which to expand their involvement in places like Iraq. The Shi'ite populations of western Afghanistan, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia's eastern province would also no doubt look quite attractive for Iran from the perspective of many of the more radical hardliners. And let's not even get into the question of what a nuclear Iran would mean as a new base for al-Qaeda ...
When the talks fail, what then? Will European negotiators acknowledge that negotiations were insufficient to deter Iran, and move toward economic or political sanctions? No, they won't: The negotiations are not a means to an end, they are the end itself.
I suspect that that's how the EU establishment sees the negotiations, at any rate. Judging from the European commentariat, a lot of the European chattering classes regards these negotiations as being the main barrier between Iran and the evil Bushitleretardictator. While it's nice to know that the EU (and how many Americans, one wonders?) regards the United States under Bush as being morally equivalent if not worse than Iran under Khamenei, Europe does have a rhetorical Achilles Heel that Bush would do well to exploit: human rights.
As DoctorZin wisely noted sometime ago:
Europe and the UN have a long history of advocating human rights. Europe has tied increased trade with Iran to improvements in their human rights record. European leaders advocacy for Human Rights in Iran bought them popular political support at home at very little cost.
Europeans are proud of their leaders stand for Human Rights. It was no surprise to Europeans that the Iranian human rights lawyer, Shirin Ebadi, won the 2003 Nobel Peace Prize.
If the US makes Human Rights in Iran a centerpiece of its Iran policy, the EU and the UN will have to support it. Russia and China would find it difficult to oppose it.
I'll admit that I'm a little less sanguine that DoctorZin about getting or Russia and China to shift their Iran policy on the basis of human rights, but I think that more or less the strategy he lays out is a pretty good one with respect to changing European attitudes on the issue of Iran. One of the reasons that Europe has turned so starkly against Israel over the last decade or so is because the Palestinians and their supporters have successfully shifted the dynamics of the debate away from the issue of Palestinian terrorism to the right of self-determination for the Palestinian people. I'm not agreeing with this approach, just noting that has been successfully "sold" in that fashion to the majority of the European public to the point where views of Israel are so distorted that it is now widely seen as one of the greatest threats to international peace and is routinely conflated with either the Nazis or South Africa under the apartheid. By studying how this shift in opinion was accomplished, the US can successfully duplicate it with respect to Iran and use it to serve our own objectives.
In many ways, I think that this approach will be a lot easier for two reasons. The first that what we are exposing here is not propaganda, just about everybody who has spent any time in blogosphere studying the issue of Iran is aware of the gross human rights abuses that have been committed by the Iranian security forces and their attendant brownshirts like the Hezb-e-Ansar against student protesters. Imagine just for a moment what would happen if stories like what happened to Zahra Kazemi and countless others over the years received the kind of scope and attention in Europe that the average Israeli incursion into the Palestinian Territories does. By broadening the number of individuals who are familiar with the true character of the Iranian regime, the US can work to create and maintain popular pressure on European governments desirous of sacrificing their own self-declared commitment to human rights on the altar of greater economic ties. That, as I said, is the first reason that I feel this approach will be successful in Europe.
The second is that, for a variety of idiotic reasoning that I'm not going to spend much time expounding on, a majority of Europeans appear deeply terrified of the idea that war (at least when initiated by Western governments, the Third Worlders can apparently kill one another with ease) can accomplish anything positive. There was a brief pause in this kind of mentality after Beslan when the entire continent watched Basayev's followers initiate the cold-blooded massacre of over 300 innocent schoolchildren, but it has since reemerged. With the exception of some post-democratic elements however, (like the nut who wrote in the Guardian that Ukraine's Orange Revolution wasn't about democracy but rather just the difference between whether it was a US or Russian puppet state) the majority of Europeans seem to support the idea of regime change in various nasty states around the planet as long as it doesn't involve those icky militaries. By embracing support for regime change in Iran (such as via the referendum process), the US can explain its objectives with Iran to the Europeans in such a way that it completely sidesteps all the knee-jerk anti-Americanistas on the Continent.
We will then see the second consequence of this option: European governments will argue that only the United States can offer the security guarantees that might tempt Iran to end its program, and therefore America should not absent itself from the negotiations. Iran will point out that leaks about U.S. war planning, deployment of aerial drones, and alleged Special Forces activities all confirm its need for self-defense. It will be said, again, that America faces two kinds of adversaries--those with nuclear weapons that it does not invade, and those without nuclear weapons that it does invade. Under the "good cop, bad cop" option, Iran's weapons program continues, Western unity is strained, and Iran lays the blame on a party not even present at the negotiations. In all, not such an attractive option.
This seems to be the consensus view in Europe, as well as in certain quarters of the US if the Post story is accurate. Bergner seems to have been quite prescient in anticipating this development:
There are now calls for the United States to move to a second option, which we might call the "united front" option. Here the United States would join France, Germany, and Great Britain and engage directly with Iran. But what could Washington offer that the European trio could not? The United States maintains ground forces in both Iraq and Afghanistan and considerable naval assets nearby. Perhaps a security guarantee from the United States would assuage the anxieties of the Iranian government. But such a pledge would be completely unwise, given the many other issues--including support for terrorism, interference in Iraq, and the Iranian regime's human rights record--that animate U.S.-Iran relations.
And that's the rub, isn't it? If the US offers Iran a guarantee that we will never use military force against them if they formally agree not to develop nukes, the regime is still free to support anti-coalition forces in Iraq, harbor the al-Qaeda leadership, support Hezbollah, etc. The end-result of such a guarantee would be to more or less formalize the current status quo with respect to Iran as permanent, which I will be quite honest in saying that I don't think that anyone who is at all familiar with the character of the hardline elements now universally acknowledged as being in ascendance inside Iran desires. But hey, I guess that what the Iran-supported Zarqawi network did in Hillah yesterday looks pretty good from the perspective of the folks over in Brussels ...
Moreover, to assume that Iran's quest for nuclear weapons has to do with the current force posture of the United States in the region is to forget that Iran has been pursuing nuclear weapons for at least 18 years, since long before even the first Gulf War. And it is to ignore that Israel, Russia, and Pakistan all possess nuclear capabilities in the region. The consequence is that "united front" negotiations would also fail. What's more, since the United States, if it joined direct talks with Iran, would immediately become the senior negotiating partner, American diplomacy would be blamed for the failure.
I'm sure that this would be the spin coming out of the same quarters that are now urging the US to accept the European initiative, but I don't think that such a view would pass muster among anybody who's been following the situation. Moreover, my own opinion is that the Iranians are quite likely to sign some kind of formal agreement with respect to nuclear weapons, only for them to violate it later at a time and situation more of their choosing. Any Iranian violation, after all, can be justified within the context of their Legitimite Fears™ of US invasion.
What then? Would Europe be more willing to adopt follow-on sanctions against Iran as a result of a perceived failure of collective U.S. and European diplomacy than it is as a result of the failure of its own diplomacy? The question answers itself. The "united front" option would permit the continuation of Iran's nuclear program and foster disagreement over follow-on measures among the allies.
I think that a kind of Iranian human rights awareness campaign similar to those that have been conducted quite successfully on behalf of the Palestinians could easily result in pressuring the EU to impose sanctions on the mullahs. The issue then becomes what kind of sanctions we can convince them to impose and to what extent, i.e. no Iraq-style cheating.
This suggests a third option, which we might call a "united front with pre-agreed follow-on measures." Under this option the United States and Europe would agree in advance on a set of consequences to ensue if negotiations failed to dislodge Iran from its position. For example, they might agree that if negotiations had not successfully concluded within six months, the United States and Europe would jointly press for economic sanctions against Iran in the U.N. Security Council.
This implies that the Europeans would be willing to undertake so drastic a measure, the evidence for which I think has been rather lacking of late.
It is difficult to believe that Europe would commit itself to such
a course of action, especially if the United States were in a position to judge what amounted to a successful negotiating outcome. Europe might surmise that Russia or China or both would block action by the Security Council in any event. Thus, for the "united front with pre-agreed follow-on measures" option to be meaningful, Europe would have to commit itself in advance to join in sanctioning Iran with or without the blessing of the Security Council. This would require Europe to overturn its long-standing views on the U.N., and to do so in an instance where Europe alone would bear most of the new costs, as the United States already has sanctions in place against Iran.
Pretty much. On the other hand, the European public appears conscious enough of human rights concerns that I think that this is the one area where we can hammer them to the point where they'll be willing to give up at least some of the economic benefits that they derive from their close ties with the mullahs.
So this third option turns out to be a pipe dream, predicated on the hope that Europe would ever adopt economic and/or political sanctions against Iran, over and against the procedures of the U.N., in response to a perceived failure of American diplomacy. While musing on this cascade of unlikely events, moreover, we might remind ourselves that there is no evidence that the imposition of joint U.S. and European economic sanctions against Iran would cause it to terminate its nuclear weapons program.
I agree that at the present stage that it's a pipe dream, but I think that there is a more immediate concern that we need to have our intelligence guys and the Europeans figure out just how close they believe that Iran is to having a nuclear bomb. I don't want to be dealing with the kind of reports like the statements by German analysts on the Iraqi nuclear program back in 2002-2003 when it comes to framing policy. The more time we have before they get the bomb, the more time we have to negotiate, pressure, et al. with the mullahs. This also gets into other policy issues like whether or not we have to rely on the MEK informant network that the Iraqi Mukhabarat used for its own purposes or whether we can regenerate our own asset network inside the country.
Is there no other option short of invasion? There is a "military strike" option, which would consist of a strike against all known and suspected Iranian nuclear weapons development facilities. In the wake of such a strike, the United States would no doubt be condemned for riding roughshod over European and world diplomacy and for taking Iranian lives. A military strike could also alienate a great swath of moderate, and especially younger, Iranians who are inclined to be friendly toward the United States and in whom we repose hope for the creation one day of a more decent, secular regime in Iran. Moderate Iranians may oppose clerical rule, but they do not necessarily oppose an Iran with nuclear capabilities. Losing the natural affection of these people would be a genuine setback.
The problem is that Iran isn't Iraq in the 1980s and that the mullahs learned from Saddam Hussein's failure with respect to Osiraq by spacing their facilities out all over the country so as to make them next to impossible for any attacker (with the Israelis in mind) to neutralize with a single attack. My concern isn't pissing off the Europeans (the majority of them already appear to think that the US is planning to attack Iran at the first opportunity) as it is whether or not such a strike would be effective and whether or not losing the support of the majority of the Iranian population is worth such a gambit.
You see, the primary concern that the US has with Iran becoming nuclear is not that we don't feel that Iran should have nuclear weapons as much as it is that we don't think that the Iranian government should have nuclear weapons. This is an important distinction that a lot of people don't seem to understand, but there is an objective reason why you and I don't wake up in the morning scared to death about the possibility of a nuclear Germany, Japan, or Australia. All three of these nations could very easily build nuclear weapons if their governments desired to do so, but the reason that very few people in the US are worried about them either doing so or becoming a security threat to us if they did is because the nature of the governments that all three of those governments have. You get a reasonably sane government in power in Tehran (or Pyongyang, for that matter) and I think you'll find that a lot of US concerns about Iran and its nuclear program tend to evaporate.
Bergner concludes with this recommendation:
A "military strike" option is thus fraught with risk for the United States from friend and foe. It does, though, have one critical difference from the other options examined here: If it were executed properly, it would eliminate or seriously retard Iran's nuclear weapons program.
I'm skeptical as to how far we could retard it, as it strikes me as the likely outcome of such an attack would be to shore up domestic support for a regime that would almost certainly redouble its nuclear efforts to deter any future US military strikes. In other words, a slightly less developed version of what we have right now with a lot more popular support behind it.
Now that we've dealt with that option, let's find out what all the anonymous sources think we should do ...
The Washington Post article on US options for Iran
As I said at the beginning of the post, I have very little doubt that the statements made by various officials in this article were done with the intention of influencing Friday's meeting. This doesn't make them untrue, but it is something to keep in mind as you read the article:
The Bush administration is close to a decision to join Europe in offering incentives to Iran -- possibly including eventual membership in the World Trade Organization -- in exchange for Tehran's formal agreement to surrender any plans to develop a nuclear weapon, according to senior U.S. officials.
Okay. I'm a little vague on the formal agreement, however. Do we get any actual tangible guarantees to that effect, or do we just get a signed document and trust in the good will of Khamenei and the ayatollahs? If so, is such an agreement worth the paper that it's printed on?
The day after returning from Europe, President Bush met Friday afternoon with the principal members of his foreign policy team to discuss requests made by German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and French President Jacques Chirac in particular. More discussions are expected this week, but the White House wants to move quickly to finalize a list of incentives to offer Tehran as part of European talks with Iran, officials said.
Okay, so basically the Euros made a series of requests for us to help them out and Bush seems to be weighing his options as far as what we can do to assist them on the off-chance that the Europeans can persuade Iran to abandon its nuclear ambitions.
The new willingness to engage, even if indirectly, marks a significant change from a position that Iran deserved no rewards for actions it is legally bound to take under terms of the Non-Proliferation Treaty. But Bush's talks last week convinced him that a united front -- in offering carrots now and a stick later if Iran does not comply -- would be more effective, U.S. and European officials say.
I suspect that's their hope, anyway. Remember, this is all being leaked with the intention of influencing whatever Bush actually decides to do come Friday. All the same, my read was that things went well enough for him in Europe (with the exception of his bizarre meeting with Putin in which he was accused of orchestrating the firing the CBS news reporters for Rathergate) that Bush wants to assist them in their efforts to engage Iran diplomatically and wants to know more about what his options are on that front.
"The reason we're comfortable considering this tactically is because strategically, when the president was in Europe, he found them solid on the big issue: that Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. Having found them firm on the strategic issue, he's more willing to consider the tactical aspects with the Europeans -- including how do we work with them and what can the Europeans offer that we would be part of it," said a senior State Department official speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive diplomacy.
Assuming that these agreements by European leaders are genuine, it's a positive indication that the adults are still at least theoretically in charge on the Continent. I'm not opposed to this whole idea that there has to be some give and take in the negotiating process with Europe, that's how politics works after all. What I'm a lot more fuzzy on is just what Europe is willing to give up in order to ensure that Iran doesn't becoming a nuclear power.
The White House discussions have importance on several levels. During Bush's first term, the administration was deeply divided over what to do about Iran, effectively leaving the White House without a formal policy. The debate ranged from adopting the Iraq model of promoting government change to the North Korean model of containing a government and creating incentives to use in diplomatic talks on disarmament.
The folks who leaked this info out seem to be of the opinion that we now have (or will after Friday) an Iran policy, I take it. I'll forgive my skepticism on this one, because I think they're reading far too much into the fact that Bush is willing to make a tactical shift in the interest of short-term gains as meaning that they've won the policy debate.
Now, the administration appears willing, at least in the short term, to hold out the prospect of tentative engagement with Iran down the road to get the Islamic republic to cooperate in limiting its nuclear energy program -- and ensuring it is not subverted for military use.
My understanding is that we were open to at least some form of engagement with Iran from 1997 until May 2003 when Iranian-backed al-Qaeda terrorists killed US nationals in Saudi Arabia. In that instance, engagement failed and I tend to be somewhat skeptical of it working now that everybody agrees that the Bad Guys inside Iran are running the show.
The White House meeting also reflects an interest in demonstrating to the Europeans that the U.S. effort to heal the transatlantic rift extends beyond tone to substance -- over the issue that most urgently and widely divides the allies.
"The meetings in Europe were really good, not just atmospherics," said a second senior administration official who requested anonymity. "We are past the point of grousing about the process or each other and we're now grappling with the issues: how to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon and how to deal with its behavior."
I'm glad to hear the Europeans were so receptive, I must have missed it with all those stickers of Bush's face on Belgian toilets and Romano Prodi's claim that the foreign policy disagreements from 2003 endured. My only concern here is that the whole crux of this stuff is how much the US needs to yield with respect to what I see as a deeply flawed European approach, nobody seems to be mentioning what all the Europeans are willing to give up ...
U.S. resistance to proposals by Britain, France and Germany, which are leading the disarmament talks with Iran, proved to be counterproductive, U.S. and European officials said, because they often made the United States, rather than Iran, appear to be the odd man out diplomatically.
A view discussed in the Standard article I highlighted above. I think that Bergner's assessment of this mentality is pretty accurate as well.
In talks after Bush's reelection late last year, British Prime Minister Tony Blair pressed Bush to join or endorse the European approach, according to U.S. and European sources.
"He said, 'Even if you stand apart, take an approach that is seen as reinforcing what we're doing, give the impression that you're empowering us,' " said another U.S. official familiar with the talks.
The biggest selling point, he added, was the argument that charting a common course would help the United States: If talks with Iran fail, Washington would not be seen as the outside player that ruined the effort. There would also then be more options to stand together in punitive steps against Iran, including going to the U.N. Security Council -- a move the United States has long sought.
If that's the case, then my guess is that the administration is considering joining the European approach with the opinion that it is likely to fail. This also seems to imply that the Euros are willing to bend if the issue comes to the UNSC if the US bends on the issue of joining the talks - they may be hoping that Russia or China vetoes any UNSC sanctions, as Bergner noted - making this more on less a quid pro quo.
A united Iran strategy could prevent a repeat of the divisive experience of the U.S. invasion of Iraq over its alleged weapons of mass destruction and its costly impact on transatlantic relations.
The incentives under active consideration are also not major concessions, U.S. and European officials note. "The kind of [economic and political] changes required for membership in the World Trade Organization are very much what we'd want to see anyway," the State Department official said. "So it's not giving Iran something. It's making clear this could lead to that, if they comply."
Yes, but only on the nuclear issue. Do these State Department types truly believe that the nuclear issue is the end-all be-all of our differences with the mullahs?
And even if Iran did fully comply on its nuclear program, it would still take many years to accede to WTO membership because of the time required to radically restructure Tehran's economy, European officials say.
Leading to more process, which as I noted above seems to be becoming regarded as an end in of itself ...
"We're profoundly skeptical that Iran is going to do anything, but we do want to do whatever we can do to help the Europeans succeed," the State Department official said. "And if Iran did comply, there would still be a lot to talk about even at that stage before Iran got WTO membership."
Ah-ha, a sane voice at the State Department! His opinion pretty much reflects that of my own with respect to the European approach and I would infer that there is a great deal of emphirical evidence that has been built up over the last 4 years to support such a position. The Euro approach is good as a stalling tactic while we figure out our strategy, not as a serious solution in of itself.
The European proposal, the U.S. official added, lets Washington take steps without changing its basic assessment of Iran's government. It also allows the president to keep all options on the table.
Like I said, a stalling tactic while we figure out our options ...
The United States is also considering the European suggestion to facilitate Iran's access to spare airplane parts for its aging passenger fleet as well as other unspecified proposals, U.S. and European officials say. The senior administration official said the White House is still working out the "right mix" and timing of incentives.
Okay, but unless they're willing to trot out Saif al-Adel, Saad bin Laden, and Imad Mugniyeh in chains I see very little reason to indulge such proposals. The whole idea of this kind of diplomacy is that it's reciprocal, otherwise we get trapped back into the same one-sided appeasement that the Europeans have been snared in.
Regarding my views and those of Dr. Ledeen ...
Because seemingly every time I post something on Iran a number of people have a tendency jeer and shout that both myself and my former boss Dr. Ledeen favor immediate US military action against Iran. This came up in a number of the Iraqi TV confessions threads and as a result I don't think he'll be angry if I quote him from a comment he made just the other day over at Belgravia Dispatch on this topic.
The relevant excerpts:
"interventionist"? I'm getting a bid tired of this particular falsehood. Was it interventionist to support Solidarity in Poland? Or the Orange Revolution in Ukraine? Or the Lebanese today in Beirut? If so, then yes, I'm an interventionist regarding Iran. But that's not what is usually meant by "interventionist." That word is usually reserved for those who advocate military action, which ... is not my position.
I want my government, and all other democratic governments, to support the Iranian people against the tyrannical mullahcracy. I am opposed to a military campaign. I have said this over and over again ... Is it "interventionist" to suggest that, if the Europeans pull of this latest version of appeasement, they will have demonstrated to the world that there is an automatic reward for starting down the path the nuclear weapons? And it's interesting that neither the NY Times nor the WaPo today mention Bush's public statements on this question while in Europe. He said that Iran had violated its international agreements, and that it was obnoxious to suggest they should be rewarded for it.
Both Dr. Ledeen (from what I understand of his views) and myself do not favor US military action against Iran, immediate or otherwise. My own position is that if al-Qaeda does carry out another major attack on the US that we will have no choice but to intervene militarily, but until we reach that point I prefer regime change through peaceful means as has occurred in any number of other countries in recent years. The failure to acknowledge or accurately represent these views is what I refer to as using the cartoon version of someone's positions (i.e. a straw man) rather than engaging what they actually believe.
To put it another way, is it that extreme of a position not to trust Ali Akbar Rafsanjani?
Oh, and faster please.








Enough good cop, bad cop. Try bad cop, badder cop. The U.S. can let slip that Israel is preparing tactical nuke strikes on suspected Iranian A-bomb development sites. Not only do the Israelis have preemption cred (Baghdad, 1981) but they have nothing to lose vis-a-vis regional Muslim states. On the other hand, the U.S. has no desire to alienate the general population of Iran. For the immediate future, therefore, it is improbable that America will attack Iran (although American forces are positioned on two borders of Iran).
FREEDOM IS ON THE MARCH!
Excellent analysis as always.
I too prefer regime change and I think it is within reach. The Blogos can have a great effect here by covering the attrocities of the Mad Mullahs of Iran that MSM has failed to cover.
The majority of Iranians consider themselves Persians. It's the Arabic minoirty that brought the radical Islamofascist theocracy. And let's not forget the, "Restless Generation," who are chomping at the bit and want more out of life.
By giving moral support to the Iranian people and focusing world attention on Iran, the women hating regime of the Mad Mullahs of Iran will implode.
See my post over at Roger L. Simon's:
"We Will, We Will Rock You"
Link Here
Excellent article. The scary thing about diplomats is that they believe in their bones that diplomacy is an end in itself, and almost always more important than the goals it is meant to address. Dangerous thinking.
Negotiation is destined to fail in Iran. The math is simple, there is no possible combination of carrot and stick more valuable to the Mullahs than having nuclear weapons would be. By their math, everything on the table will be theirs by default once they have a nuclear arsenal. They are probably correct in that assessment. So what exactly is the diplomatic gameplan? Sweet reason?
Something radical needs to be done, and i dont know what that would be. Attacks are less wrought with peril and more useful than critics let on. We neednt irradicate the nuclear infastruture to seriously set it back. This should still be our last option.
There may be a diplomatic poison pill we can inject into this, but it is a risky strategy as well. Its possible that a full frontal diplomatic press with a demand for free elections could happen. If we managed to slip that provision through in the chaos, it might be enough to bring the rotten timbers of the regime crashing down from the inside. Or not. Its still a thought.
In a sense, the US position is actually a "put up or shut up" message to the EU. The catch, of course, is that the EU has nothing much to "put up". They have at most some economic clout, but it is limited and internally constrained by the splintered interest groups that comprise it. So I hope for and expect (?) some kind of US end-run around the talk/war dichotomy, made possible by the escalating political pressure the Democracy Tsunami is exerting.
Dan, what about the Russian fuel deliveries?
I agree that diplomacy-as-punting is a decent short-term tactic... But it all comes down to what sort of time frame we have.
someone, I believe the Iranians are required under contract to return the spent rods to Russia. Whether they do so is another matter.....
Seems Robin Wright's views are about to win with respect to Iran policy of the Bush government.
Bush adminstration offers ECONOMIC aid to Iran which is just sad and away from what Bush stated weeks ago!
Excellent analysis as usual, Dan. I'll definitely link this post in my morning round-up tomorrow.
My own view is that we shouldn't do anything about Iran. Or, more accurately, we should:If there's anything we can do covertly or overtly to support Iranian dissidents without undermining them, we should do it.
One way to do that is to make public offers of economic, medical etc. aid which in theory helps ordinary Iranians, while keeping political and international pressure on the mullah regime. Those who still don't have homes after the Bam earthquake, but who will hear about the money being spent on nuclear weapon development, might want to know that there were other options that could have - and still could - improve their lives.
Unlike North Korea, Iran can't shut out the news. The US will be stepping up broadcasts in Farsi - can't find the link at the moment - so the word about the offer of economic aid will get to ordinary Iranians.
BTW, that same article said the US will start broadcasts to Europe -- in Arabic.
If there's anything we can do covertly or overtly to support Iranian dissidents without undermining them, we should do it.
Force the Iranian goverment to stop their only popular program. A big problem will be that a democratic goverment would probably restart it.
The question is, would a democratic Iranian government present the same level of threat even if so equipped? Somehow, having senior givernment officials making public statements that the nuking of their country would be "acceptable losses" doesn't seem like a good prescription for power in a democratic system.
There are legitimate questions re: would a democratic Iran be acceptably safe as a nuclear-armed state, or would it still be a catastrophe due to instability, secondary proliferation, and regional proliferation (basically, like Pakistan but worse). What is certain is that sanctions and other peaceful measure would have considerably more traction in a democratic environment... so if a nuclear-armed Iran would be a disaster, then short of declaring war a transition to democracy from the current medievalist terrorist crooks would be a big step forward. Vid. Brazil, South Africa as prominent examples of this dynamic in action.
The other thing we're accustomed to from 'a' is a reflexive equivalence that leads him simultaneously treat the Iranian regime as a normal government and ignore the nature of the threat it represents. The nature of the regime matters - and forgetting that moral distinction is the second greatest fallacy at the heart of all of a's thinking on foreign policy subjects.
That's the reason that we should be re-asserting the principles of deterrence. And extending it to include supplying terrorists with nukes.
It's something of an article of faith that democracies are deterrable but it's not necessary. The Soviet Union was no democracy and, obviously, it was deterrable. So the issue is less whether Iran is democratic (although, obviously, we'd prefer that) than whether it's deterrable. If Iran is deterrable, then we need to re-assert deterrence as a policy for it to work. If Iran is not deterrable, then it's not deterrable and they'll use nuclear weapons or convey them to terrorists to use no matter what we do. And we'll stop them because we don't have any choice. But until then we should put our cards on the table to give deterrence a chance to work.
For Israel it wouldn't change much but a different regime would be no treat for Europe, not only in the sence than the USSR was no treat for Europe in the 80's because everybody knew it would have gone nuclear and neither side would have wanted that but also because there are few potential conflict areas between Europe and Iran. You also have to realise that the number of nukes Iran will have will be small, a few dozen or so. Standing under one when they go off is bad but it is not like they could destroy more than a small part of Europe.
ps. It is not human rights that is Israel problem in Europe but property & setlement rights.
I'm going to second what Dave Schuler said. I haven't seen any convincing reason to believe that the mullahs of Iran are any worse than the Soviet Union no matter what metric you use. Sponsorship of terrorism? The mullahs have nothing on the Soviets there. Willingness to oppress their people? Pfff, no contest. Overt anti-Americanism and expansionist ideology? I'd say they're about on par with Communist ideology on that scale. The Soviets were deterrable, and the mullahs probably are as well.
Of course that's not to say that it would be okay for the mullahs to have nukes. Obviously not. Nobody sane wants a miniature Cold War in the ME. This is why it's necissary to simultaneously do everything possible to undermine the mullahs and bring about their end as quickly as possible. I think this can be done by the end of Bush's second term if Sistani can be kept alive, because he's the best soft weapon available against the mullahs. Khomenist clerical rule is heresy as far as mainstream Shi'ism is concerned, so if Sistani felt secure enough to order a fatwa to the effect that the mullahs of Iran were to be opposed (by peaceful means or otherwise), I'm pretty sure the mullahs wouldn't be able to last very long.
So I think what we're looking at here is a realtively short period of time where Iran has nukes and mullahs, during which we'll have to make do with deterrance and diplomacy. But we only have to put up with this until the internal pressure in Iran comes to a breaking point. This is probably the best we can hope for, so let's concentrate on speeding it along as quickly as possible. Forget about getting them to give up the nukes; it's not gonna happen. We need to keep our eyes on regime change.
Yes, Matt, that's exactly what I'm saying. And, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, President Bush and Secretary of State Rice and Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld and senior members of the Senate of both parties like Joe Biden need to start speaking out and repeating it: we will respond.
Here's a link on my site where I aggregate links to my posts on deterrence and other resources on deterrence and Iranian nuclear weapons development. It's a little old so I can't guarantee that some of the external links aren't broken.
Deterrence is not a hold card. It's the card on the table. If it ain't on the table you ain't got nothin'. And we've got to point it out so that no state actor believes they'd survive a nuclear attack against the United States even if the attack is via a third party.
Agreed, Dave. Unfortunately nobody wants to state the obvious for fear of creating a panic, but this is more likely to be disastrous than being completely up-front about the nuclear option.
India. Shouldn't democratic India be a US ally here? They have regional interests and economic interests (oil imports) -- and can't be excited about another Islamic nuclear power -- that has a land border with Pakistan and can thus directly tranfer technology and even weaponry. They are an emerging power and ought to be a strategic ally of the US for a whole host of other reasons. Drawing India into this sort of "A League" international diplomacy also ought to be attractive to the Indians as an upgrade for their prestige. Sort of a coming-out party for them as a global power . . . India has a solid military relationship with Israel also . . .
To All:
I say roll the dice and place your bets on the Iranian people. As I've said before the majority of the Iranians considered themselves Persian and distance themselves from the Arabic minority that brought the fundamental Islamofascist ruling theocracy.
Also the "Joyless Generation" who want more out of life than 12th Century Mullahs can provide are getting very restless.
I think with a little moral support and the focus of the free world on Iran, the Mad Mullahs of Iran will implode or at least "melt" like the Wicked Witch of the East in the Wizard of OZ when the truth shines on them.
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Enough of this "what is good US policy"crap !
1) There are no instances in history where ANY sanctions can be said to have worked, from the Peloponnesian wars to the present day.
2) The Europeans are trading w/ and selling weapons to the Iranians and i am sure that petrodollars will be able to also buy their NO votes on the security council if or when it comes to that stage.So they are completely compromised as interlocutors to everyone w/ common sense, which thereby excludes the politicians,diplos & chattering classes.
3)To take a gamble that we can peacefully bring about regime change at all in Iran is sheer hubris. Our leaders are assuming that the Iranian population will somehow rise up at a fortuitous moment BEFORE their reactor goes on line. Does that pass for either a strategy or an option the US can afford to take?
4)The Iranian govt has been AT WAR with the US for almost 30 years and has been the instigator of this war.If we let them develope nuclear weapons,the war on terror will be irretrievably lost, our people put in dire peril , and all our sacrifices will have been for naught. If the govt of israel does not take this reactor out the United states ABSOLUTELY MUST or not only fail its people but quite frankly be illegitimate in the eyes of many of its people
@Ron
You really want to claim that the mullah's were put in power by Iran small and unimportant arab minority ?
@Tom
sanctions work very well with military objectives but are counterproductive against political objectives. Nukes are more political than military.
Hoping that the people will rise before the reactor goes online is about the only think we can hope for because in reality there is not much we can do which would improve the situation medium term.
The US govt has been at war with the Iranian people for almost 52 years
As usual, 'a' reverses the situation. It is always the USA's fault, and always must be.
It is far more accurate to say that the government of Iran has been at war with the U.S.A. for the last 25 years. That actually allows for rational explanatins re: the demonstrations of support for the USA post-9/11, discouraged by the regime but with big turnouts anyway. Or the generally positive feelings many Iranians seem to have for the USA. Or the massive Iranian government support for terrorism and murder, and recent use of those same bully-boys for internal murder and opression of their own people (which 'a' so conveniently elides - down the memory hole, never happened).
If there's a war against the Iranian people, it comes from the government mullahs and the Council of Guardians. To refuse to acknowledge that - or worse, to shill for those people by trying to blame the USA - is monstrous.
Of course, history will march on. If we decline to follow a's recommendation for pre-emptive surrender, upside-down premises and self-hatred, we can help a better world emerge. We're already beginning to see glimpses of what's possible.
Despite the best efforts of people like 'a', who can't kick the haterade and won't stop spewing it back up.
Dave and Matt,
A number of critiques of your analysis.
1) The ideology of the USSR was that communism would supercede capitalism as the world progressed. The Mullah's seem to believe, along with Al-Queda, that the western world needs a little boot to exit the mortal coil. I don't think you can compare the two. Thus, one ideology is deterrable, one is not.
2) MAD, the essence of deterrence, was a strategy we were losing until Reagan decided to take us in a new direction. Deterrence was a strategy dictated by the high consequences and lack of other alternatives. I don't think the situation is that dire. And we have other alternatives.
3) Remember that you do not know that deterrence has failed until you have to use it. That fact alone makes me unwilling to gamble an American city on Mullah rationality.
4) Joe makes a great point about new leadership in Iran. However, I tend to believe that new leadership in Iran will be more interested in reviving that economy then in gaining nuclear weapons. In other words, they will be receptive to carrots.
While we're all focused on Europe and Russia, don't forget China. They have just signed a very large deal to build a natural gas pipeline, not to mention drill in Iran AND not to mention a very large economic package where they are selling a huge amount of goods like appliances, etc in Iran.
If you thought the stink over attacking Iraq was ugly, imagine France, Russia and China that are betting their economic and resource futures on Iran, sitting on the Security Council. They aren't going for sanctions, ever. They aren't going to like any military action in Iran ever and might, in the case of China and maybe Russia offer extreme amount of military assistance (France would too but not to the extent of these other two; there's would be more like the night vision goggles, simple munitions and air plane parts for their jets) in regards to munitions and weapons and monetary help (if not indirect cash and volunteers for training these folks, much more than what was offered Iraq).
In regards to their restless youth, let's face it, the regime not only has a well organized police apparatus, but, while there is a large number of restless youth, there are still a large number of conservative folks that support the regime. Much larger than the Iraq situation.
The only way a "peaceful" regime change occurs in Iraq and doesn't unnecessarily jeopardize infrastructure and economic deals with the outside world is if the Iranian military decides to go Russian or Belarus and turns on the government.
Otherwise, these folks at the top are not giving up peacefully and no matter how many demonstrations, the restless youth are just going to continue to be arrested, tortured, disappeared or killed by the ad hoc or official security apparatus.
To that extent, we are only left with two choices:
a) We accept that they will go nuclear and put a serious deterence package together (even possibly enlisting India and Pakistan) to deter expansion and assistance to terrorist organizations. I think we have to give it to them straight and say there is no plausible deniability. At the same time, we continue to work with dissidents to change the regime.
b) We go Fulton on them (damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead), ignore the rest of the world and their flip flopping ineffective restless youth, maybe make some deals with people inside ready to step up to the government plate and be done with it (limit the number of exiles we bring into the government since that seemed to be an issue in Iraq).
That's it. There are no third choices because their dissidents are not big enough or motivated enough to effect change before nuclear capability.
The regime change in 1979 was mostly peaceful so why couldn't it happen now. Especially when this goverment doesn't have outside support and isn't particulary liked.
There is also a c option which contains three parts.
1). Offer some deals that will slow them down.
2). Do some sabotage without leaving fingerprints. And leaving no fingerprints is much more important that the sabotage.
3). Be very nice to the Iranian goverment. Not because you like them or are scare of them but because than every fault is their fault alone and that is deathly to any goverment.
@Joe
It is not really a question of guilt. Iran and America are like cat & dog. If Iran will not start to fight than America will start to fight.