Zorkmidden: This is the featured weekly post from Discarded Lies at Winds of Change.NET. The Terra Nostra series is about the Jewish Holocaust in Greece, righteous gentiles, tales of heroism and simple human will to survive, and the beauty of human souls even in a horrific tableau. It's also about contemporary Greek attitudes to Jews, Judaism, and Israel.
In Greece, a massive scandal has rocked the Orthodox Church. Several Bishops have been accused of trial-fixing, embezzlement, sex escapades and drug dealing. The head of the church, Archbishop Christodoulos, has lost the confidence of the public, with Greek society evenly split on whether he should resign. Polls show that for the first time ever there's wide support for the separation of church and state, unheard of in a country that is 97% Greek Orthodox and where the church has traditionally been credited with helping Greeks maintain their ethnic identity through five hundred years of Ottoman occupation.
I don't want to bore you with the details of the scandal, you can read all about it here, but here's what's troubling me: Vavilis, a key figure in this scandal and a man with murky connections to the Greek state and Archbishop Christodoulos, has told the press he had the Archbishop's backing when he conducted a dirty tricks election campaign for the current Jerusalem Patriarch Irineos. Archbichop Christodoulos denies this, but Irineos confirms that Vavilis was sent to him by Archbishop Christodoulos.
The Greek Orthodox Church is the oldest, richest and most powerful church in Jerusalem. As head of the Greek Orthodox Church, Irineos is responsible for its extensive land holdings, including the land on which the Knesset was built, the Prime Minister's and the President's official residences, parts of Jerusalem's wealthiest neighborhoods and many locations in the Old City.
(On a parenthetical note - isn't it funny how Jews manage to control the world but don't seem to have a very good handle on their own real estate?)
"You are finally aware of the sentiments of disgust and disrespect that all the Holy Sepulcher Fathers are feeling for the descendants of the crucifiers of our Lord Jesus Christ, actual crucifiers of your people, Sionists (sic) Jewish conquerors of the Holy Land of Palestine.Patriarch Irineos denied that he wrote this and he sued Ma'ariv, the newspaper that originally published the letter, but withdrew his lawsuit soon after and paid the newspaper's legal expenses. As Caroline Glick wrote in her January 30, 2004 column (from Frontpage Magazine - The Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem and Terror):
"Irineos has claimed that the letter is a forgery, but a police investigation, which was closed two weeks ago, substantiated its authenticity. Sources close to the investigation say that three people were with Irineos when he penned the letter and all provided testimony to the police that the letter was authentic."And who can forget his former spokesman Attallah Hanna who was urging Arab Christians to join forces with Muslims and take part in suicide attacks against Israel? The Patriarch supposedly distanced himself from Hanna, but during the 2003 Easter celebration, Irineos "greeted Hanna with kisses and hugs, seated him to his right and had him translate his Greek remarks into Arabic for the audience."1
It has also been widely reported that Irineos promised to give Arafat church property in Jerusalem as a gift. Patriarch Irineos has denied that he's pro-Palestinian, saying "I'm not pro-anything, I'm only pro-God."
On Monday, the 28th of February, I watched a talk show on Antenna TV about the church scandal. Archbishop Christodoulos was represented by his lawyer, Mr. Dimitrakopoulos. The Archbishop was being accused of having closer ties with Vavilis than he was willing to admit, and there was evidence to back up that assertion by several journalists on the panel. Mr Dimitrakopoulos poo-pooed the accusations that Archbishop Christodoulos had sent Vavilis to Jerusalem with fake passports and identity papers, by saying "Yes, the Archbishop would make midnight trips to his basement where he keeps all the equipment for making fake passports and ids and he made a fake passport for this person. Come on, people, let's get serious here..."
At that point, a well-respected journalist, Spyros Karatzaferis, brought to the lawyer's attention that Vavilis had close ties with people in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs who in turn had close ties with Archbishop Christodoulos; the fake passports and papers Vavilis was given before his Jerusalem trip, were provided through a collaboration between Christodoulos and people in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and they were not fake, they may have had fake names but all the rest was authentic and perfectly proper.
The lawyer was taken aback a bit at the journalists' insistence I guess, because that's when he brought out the big guns:
"I will tell you, I wasn't going to tell you yet, but I will tell you - the Archbishop told me this. You know who's behind this? A very powerful religious group - not a Christian religion - the same group who threatened the Archbishop back then about the identity cards. They are the most powerful group on earth."
Here's what the lawyer is talking about: In 2001, Archbishop Christodoulos blamed the Jews for being behind the government's decision to abide by European Union rules opposed to stating one's religion on the new state identity cards, which have a standard format for EU member countries.2 His claims were publicised in the media and expounded on by various commentators in newspapers and television channels.
So I guess this is a personal vendetta by the world's organized Jewry against the good Archbishop. I guess Jews just have it in for him. I'm sure it has nothing to do with anti-Semitism at all or... the traditional attitude of the Greek Orthodox Church, which unlike the Roman Catholic Church, has not yet absolved the Jews for their alleged responsibility for the death of Jesus or removed such references from its liturgy. During Easter Holy Week, for example, the Jews are repeatedly called Theoktoni (God killers) and “an impious and illegitimate people.”Here's how life is for a rabbi in Greece3:
Rabbi Mordechai Frisis' calling in life: "to save the remnant of Salonika's once-vibrant Jewish community from extinction… Living in Greek society is no easy task for a religious Jew, as anti-Semitism is rampant. I walk around with a cap because there have really been some problems. There is antisemitism in Greece," the rabbi notes. More than a year ago, while visiting the community, Frisis was attacked and physically beaten at the city's train station… "Greece is a very traditional Christian society, and they blame the Jews for killing Jesus. There are still people who believe that Jews drink the blood of Christians on Pessah."
| Anti-Semitic Cartoons in the Greek Press | |
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| (Eleftherotypia daily newspaper)
Someone in the background: "Do you think that the Lord may be related to Hamas? Every time he is resuscitated they kill him again". (the killers walking away are an Israeli and a US soldier) | (In Eleftherotypia, after the assassination of Sheikh Yassin) The woman asks: “Why did the Jewish Government kill a religious leader?” The man answers, “They are practicing for Easter.” |
Anti-Semitism is still rampant in Greece, a country that voted against the creation of Israel - the only European country to do so. It's fed by the media, by the politicians, by various government officials. One would expect the religious leaders to set a good example, to enlighten the people instead of propagating ancient blood libels. Shame on them.
References
1. A thimbleful of good cognac to Jefe for contributing this link. [back to article]
2. Anti-Semitism in Greece - Embedded in Society [back to article]
3. Twenty-five months of anti-Semitic invective in Greece [back to article]
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I wonder what the attitude of the other Orthodox churches is. Maybe the International Jewish Conspiracy site should investigate!
Zhang, you're one step away from being banned and having all your comments erased. That's twice, now. There had better not be a third time.
This is wonderful web opinion/journalism. Zorkmidden/Discarded Lies, the best thing you did was to provide a series of hyperlinks to document your interpretations of the church scandal, and its connections to the Jerusalem Patriarchate. Those of us who don't know anything about the story, and those who are prone to skepticism about stories on the internet--I count myself in both camps--can use those links as a wedge to gain a deeper appreciation of what's going on.
Thanks for posting.
I agree with AMac wholeheartedly, this is an excellent example of well-documented, responsible web journalism, as opposed to say, fjordman's "Muslim Rape Epidemic in Norway and Sweden" which Robin cites here, which appears to be biased, sketchy and generally not believable. Perfect counterexample.
This seems to be a huge problem on both sides of the aisle, the presentation of partial data sets in support of some inflammatory cause.
Perhaps of interest:
From Arutz Sheva.
Colt, I dont know anything much about the Greek island scandal - all I had heard was something about building a casino - but conspiracy theories abound about Israel buying land in Greece in order to control the Aegean. I haven't heard any conspiracy theories about other foreigners that buy land in Greece, including the islands, unless they're Jews.
It'd be funny to see what a conspiracist would make of this: the Prime Minister of Israel and the Patriarch of the Greek Orthodox church conspiring to, uh... I really can't come up with a good conspiracy theory on this one.
Makes lots of money ;-)
Colt, it needs a little more sinister ;-)
Why doesn't Israel declare war on Greece for Christodoulos' "Israel is Hell" remarks? Can the Israeli Government kick out Theophillos and shut down the Greek Orthodox holy sites? It's their country! On Chanukah Israel should drop a nuclear bomb on Greece and wipe out Hellenism once and for all! Nobody in America would care!
To all those self-righteous Jew. I am Greek and the Greek Church is an embarrassment. I am aware of that. As there is anti Semitism in Greece, which is shameful and backward, and has its roots not only in religion but also in the Ottoman Empire when the Turks brought in the Jews from Spain to balance and counteract the Greek dominance in trade and business in Istanbul.
But let’s be fair Israelis, you as any other religious group, including the Greek Orthodox, and probably more so that any, believe you are the chosen people. An idea which is extremely exclusive and discriminating in its heart. Anyone that believes they are chosen by "god" immediately assume they are somehow superior by virtue not of their humanity but rather by an abstract quality a perception on peoples mind.
To counter the idea of the exclusivity the idea of inclusivity is that we insist we do not define at individual, we do not categorize a person by virtue of class, or cast, that we do not abstract an individual by virtue of sexual preference, or religion, or some form of ethnicity. Rather that we use one category and one category alone, that individual's humanity. It is a way of viewing individuals in terms of their particular human qualities rather than abstract qualities by virtue of a perception on peoples mind.
Israel does not practice that. The Nazi Germans did something awful to the Jewish people. But now the Jewish people are doing the same to the Palestinians. They are taking away their lands and treating them in a dehumanizing way.
Before you cast a stone look at how you behave to others. There are news that never reach the US. Recent killings of innocent Palestinians that have done nothing wrong besides being born muslin in the land of their fathers are an example.
So lets us be fair: Jews, Greek, Turk, Arabs or any other that believe they have the right to kill in the name of their god are wrong in doing so.
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