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April 4, 2005Winds Iraq Report: Apr 4/05by Andrew Olmsted at April 4, 2005 3:05 AM
Welcome! Our goal at Winds of Change.NET is to give you one power-packed briefing of insights, news and trends from Iraq that leaves you stimulated, informed, and occasionally amused every Monday & Thursday. This briefing is brought to you by Joel Gaines of No Pundit Intended and Andrew Olmsted of Andrew Olmsted dot com. TOP TOPICS
Other Topics Today Include: Marines face IEDs in Haqlaniyah; the Army's plan for defeating the insurgency; U.S. citizen captured in Iraq; reconstruction highlights; Carnival of the Liberated; mujahadeen travel alert; U.S. WMD intelligence report. REPORTS FROM THE FIELD
RECONSTRUCTION & THE ECONOMY
IRAQI POLITICS
THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE
ETCETERA
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More good news from Iraq.... from Media Lies
Excerpt: ....and this time is the AP!U.S. and Iraqi officials say they have seen an increase in calls tipping off authorities in recent weeks, and officials...
Tracked: April 4, 2005 5:33 AM
Around The 'Sphere from The Moderate Voice
Excerpt: Our occasional linkfest featuring interesting items from various weblogs. Links are NOT restricted to just one political viewpoint. Opinions do not neces...
Tracked: April 4, 2005 7:30 PM
Winds of War Briefing from Security Watchtower
Excerpt: Monday's Winds of War Briefing has been posted at Winds of Change. Also available is the Iraq Report....
Tracked: April 11, 2005 6:06 PM
Iraq News Summaries from Stryker Brigade News
Excerpt: Plenty of information regarding recent events in the following entries: Iraq Report: Apr 04/05 - From Winds of Change Good news from Iraq, Part 25 - From Arthur Chrenkoff...
Comments
#1 from Susan at 8:46 am on Apr 04, 2005
Yeah, you missed a few things.... "indicates a level of intelligence failure eclipsing the counter-intelligence failures which culminated in the 1990s" True, but it doesn't eclipse the intelligence failure of 9/11, and Tenet got a metal! That is two major intelligence failures under the Bush administration, with nobody fired. Expect the third one any day now.... Also, this report did not look at how the intelligence was used by, or influenced by, the Bush administration. (Remember how they treated those US Military Officers who said that "Expect the man (whose name has yet to be released by the DoD) to become a cause celebre for the antiwar types" It violates the US constitution and international law to detain someone without charges or trial. Over 200 Iraqi police have been killed in the month of March. Two drones went down (big $$)... did you know that those drones are controlled from Nevada by the under 21 crowd? I read a report today where they said they have to remind them that it is real people they are shooting and killing from those drones. US troop was discharged from the military, but will serve no jail time, for his "mercy killing" of an injured Iraqi, who was supposedly an insurgent. Imagine if an Iraqi insurgent did the same to a US Marine on film..... (well, we don't need that Geneva Convention stuff, anyway, do we?) The military is working on new high-tech weapons to use for crowd control (good chance they will be used in the USA too). No FDA clearance necessary, since the US only kills "bad guys" (without charges or trial, though). There is a fund set up to help the orphans of Tal Afar, whose parents were killed by US troops on 1/18/05. One child was injured and is now unable to walk, the other four children are fine. Well, as fine as you can be after seeing your parents killed right in front of you. Seeing more and more PTSD in returning troops. Lots of TBI in returning troops also. One bit of very good news, is that casualty rates for US troops down last month. Not true for Iraqi forces or Iraqi civilians, however. So, we caught Saddam, there are not and never were WMDs in Iraq ....(I knew that! How come I know more than the CIA/Pentagon/Congress/White House? Well, for one thing, I remember Rice and Powell saying how Saddam was contained, and not a threat, and had no nuclear weapons program in 1991. Too bad the rest of them couldn't remember! Also, I used the common sense test... If Saddam was a threat, then all his neighboring countries would have supported the idea of taking him out. They didn't, with two exceptions.) .... the Iraqis have elected their new leaders, we spent hundreds of billions of dollars, and we've managed to tarnish our reputation around the world with the gay S&M porno that our troops did.... so why are we still in Iraq? No matter what comes out of the Bush administration's mouth,
#2 from Susan at 8:52 am on Apr 04, 2005
oh, one more thing... the latest panel on WMDs in Iraq totally ignored the reports from the UN weapons inspectors!! Remember them? They were there in 2002 and early 2003. They didn't find anything either. But hey, they're selling F-16s to Pakistan and India, missles to Ukraine, and we are totally ignoring the fact that our buddy, the dictator of Uzbekistan likes to boil people alive.... You are a nut Susan. Give up the "Bush cooked the intel" argument, it's as dead as Dennis Kucinich's presidential aspirations after one day. You can reach about the obituary here: I'm sorry that you get your knickers in a twist over positive developments, I truly empathize with those who can't manage to get past partisan politics in order to support what's best for this nation. Please, go check yourself in and have an exam. You are a nut Susan. Give up the "Bush cooked the intel" argument, it's as dead as Dennis Kucinich's presidential aspirations after one day. You can reach about the obituary here: I'm sorry that you get your knickers in a twist over positive developments, I truly empathize with those who can't manage to get past partisan politics in order to support what's best for this nation. Please, go check yourself in and have an exam.
#5 from Gary at 2:33 am on Apr 05, 2005
Susan, you seem to be an intelligent person. Please answer the following questios: 1. When President Bush referred to the fact that British Intelligence believed that Iraq was trying to purchase yellow cake in his State of the Union Address was that untrue at the time he said it? 2. If that statement were made today would it be untrue? 3. Have two independant comissions recently concluded that the belief of British intelligence was "well founded?" 4. Which major countries did not believe that Iraq had WMDs before the Second Gulf War? 5. Why isn't the mainstream media interested in the full release of Kerry's military records, even though he promised to do so on Face the Nation? 6. Who was the first U.S. President to fund stem cell research. 7. Democrats are always saying, "If 50,000 voters went the other way in Ohio, Bush would not be President. How may voters would have had to go the other way in Minnesota or Wisconsin to make the vote count in Ohio irrelevant?
#6 from RF Man at 2:34 am on Apr 05, 2005
"... did you know that those drones are controlled from Nevada by the under 21 crowd? I read a report today where they said they have to remind them that it is real people they are shooting and killing from those drones." Susan, you read a report? I read a report today that said you are an idiot. Get the crap out from between your ears. NOBODY, fires ANY weapons from Drones in Iraq, Afghanistan or in any other countries they are utilized, without an OK from the lawyers who oversee EVERY mission.
#7 from Soldier's Dad at 3:41 am on Apr 05, 2005
Susan, "You used the common sense test" That's why you believe that drones in Iraq are controlled by children working in Nevada. Please tell me that you don't drive or operate machinery. Susan, Normally, I would say that you should get your head out of the sand, but it's not stuck in the sand. It's stuck somewhere else. Second, I strongly suspect that you're the kind of person that paid real money to go see Farenheit 9/11. In which case, Michael Moore made some money off of you. Sucker.
#9 from God at 7:28 am on Apr 05, 2005
Susan sez. . . That is two major intelligence failures under the Bush administration, with nobody fired. Expect the third one any day now. . . Ah. But, Susan, remember what your side predicted before the Iraq invasion? Tens of thousands of American casualties, a bitter street fight in Baghdad, a mass rise of 'the Arab Street,' another ten-year quagmire like Vietnam, and no chance whatsoever of anything approaching a peaceful democratic state. And yet here we are, barely two years later. No Vietnam! Folks are being murdered in Baghdad, yes -- at maybe the same rate as in central Detroit or Compton during a hot restless summer when the crack gangs are active. Not what you'd call Chevy Chase white picket fence nice, but not Vietnam, not the utter collapse of civic order your side has been predicting every day for the last 600 odd days. Meanwhile, the jarheads keep cleaning out rats' nests, in Falluja, Mosul, Najaf, et cetera, one by one. The electricity and water are back and better than before, there's a democratically elected legislature forming a new government -- democratic bickering and smoky-room horse-trading and all -- women are voting and participating in government like nowhere else in the region, and regular citizens are starting to tag the bad guys. Not to mention, as the ripples spread, Qaddafi abandons his WMD program, Saudi Arabia initiates elections, Syrian troops are leaving Lebanon, and Egypt might allow some semblance of an opposition party. Oh, and Mr. Osama and the dreaded al Qaeda? After eight years of your side, we got airplanes smashing into the World Trade Center and 3000 dead, people leaping to their deaths rather than burn alive. After six years of ours, we got. . .a threatening videotape. A web site that posts mean comments about America. Mmmm, quite a contrast. Gosh, Susan. Doesn't sound the least little bit like what y'all predicted, does it? Sounds like you've all scored just about 100% wrong in predicting the consequences of anything at all, over and over again, for five years straight. And, you know, I'd say that's the gigantic gold-medal Guiness Book of World Records "intelligence" failure. And I do mean "intelligence" in both senses of the word, dear. It's no surprise you focus on the details, 'cause when it comes to the big picture, you and your fellow travelers have been as clueless a bunch of morons as any set of scowling slogan-spewing Politburo apparatchiks in babushka scarves and army boots.
#10 from TW at 4:28 pm on Apr 05, 2005
Susan says "So, we caught Saddam, there are not and never were WMDs in Iraq ....(I knew that! How come I know more than the CIA/Pentagon/Congress/White House? Well, for one thing, I remember Rice and Powell saying how Saddam was contained, and not a threat, and had no nuclear weapons program in 1991". It continues to amaze me that some people choose to live in a fantasy world where Saddam never had WMD. I believe that the Kurds and Iranians would dissagree with your delusional ramblings...so would the UN who helped disarm Saddam in the 1990's. Susan, you just cant make crap up to fit you political beliefs as you end up making a complete fool out of yourself.
#11 from malclave at 2:20 am on Apr 06, 2005
Kids in Nevada controlling the drones? Makes me wonder what happened to all those people recruited by the military because of their Missile Command scores (transmitted by a secret chip in the arcade games). And why are you talking about "nuclear WMDs"? I don't recall any claims that Saddam had nukes.
#12 from a at 3:29 am on Apr 06, 2005
God not the utter collapse of civic order your side has been predicting every day for the last 600 odd days. For the last 600 odd days there has not been a civic order in Arab Iraq. I don't call that predicting but just stating facts. The electricity and water are back and better than before there's a democratically elected legislature forming a new government -- democratic bickering and smoky-room horse-trading and all Most dictatorships are also run by bickering and smoky-room horse-trading. women are voting and participating in government like nowhere else in the region Sadly they had more rights and power under Saddam. His WMD program was run by a woman as you may remember. Doubt that will happen under Jaafari. The new WMD program will be run by a man. and regular citizens are starting to tag the bad guys. Not to difficult. All the bad guys are in American uniforms. Qaddafi abandons his WMD program, is of the lease so what for evil is he doing now? Saudi Arabia initiates elections, Won by fundi's Syrian troops are leaving Lebanon, so Hezbollah can claim power and Egypt might allow some semblance of an opposition party. who are Fundi's, and i fear for democratic revolutions in the Middle East (which leads to more fundi's in power)
#13 from God at 2:22 am on Apr 07, 2005
Um, a, there are important differences between an argument and mindless contradiction. One of those difference is, there's no need to even respond to mindless contradiction. Toodles!
#14 from pissant at 7:22 pm on Apr 08, 2005
I fear democratic / Islamic revolution in Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Pakinstan too. Notice the Bush Administration is quite fine with Mubarak, Musharraf, and the royal family running the show over there for now, depsite all the talk about freedom and democracy. But Iran's had its Islamic revolution and look where it got them - maybe a democratic revolution is ripening there? It will be interesting to see how Iraq plays out, but I think it's headed in the right direction. Some of the women's rights aspects have been disappointing, but I think over time in there's a chance to make some real gains there under a democratic government. I don't regard women being involved in a WMD program a progressive women's rights agenda, however.
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