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April 17, 2006Hiltzik of the LA Times - Unethical Or Just Ignorant?by Armed Liberal at April 17, 2006 1:03 AM
I've had fun reading Michael Hiltzik in the past, mostly because he's an interesting case of a major newspaper trying on the blog form. He manages, I think to combine the worst of both - the overweening arrogance of the MSM and the casual, fact-challenged style of much blogging. He's sadly modeling himself on some weird hybrid of TBogg and Atrios, and under the impression that spittle-flecked indignation is what the personal voice of blogging is all about. Hugh Hewitt has been hammering the Times, and suggesting that their circulation decline (3% year to year) is related to their political leanings (I'm doubtful that this is the whole or even the majority of the reason, but Hugh gets to make his argument). Hiltzik replies with a typically classless slam at Hugh - suggesting that his blog traffic is down and implying that it's his conservative stance that's responsible. Here's what Michael says (links in original):Got that? Now click through on the 'Site Meter' link in the quote. Go ahead - I'll wait. You get the generic Site Meter home page. Let me introduce Mr. Hiltzik to my little friend, the Internet. One of the things we do, typically, is to link directly to the thing we're discussing, so that people can look for themselves and validate (or, in this case, invalidate) our claims. Here's the actual link to Hugh's Site Meter. Go ahead and click through and let me know if you see a secular decline. Patterico hammered Hiltzik for misrepresenting the numbers (amplified by Independent Source's look at Hugh's Alexa ratings, which go back further than his Sitemeter numbers do. I want to pile on, and suggest that while I've looked at some of Patrick's more aggressive claims about Hiltzik's intellectual honesty as a bit over the top, I was wrong - Hiltzik is just plain dishonest. I can't imagine another reason why - having look at the actual numbers from Sitemeter for Hugh's site - he wouldn't have included the link, except on the assumption that his readers would simply take his word for it. Tracked: April 17, 2006 2:33 AM
Round Three from Blue Crab Boulevard
Excerpt:
In which Michael Hiltzik decides he's had quite enough drubbing by Patterico and decides to take on Hugh Hewitt instead.
Which leads to the question - exactly how in touch with reality is Hiltzik?
Apparently not much. Read Patterico. Read...
Comments
Yeah, I tried to check Hewitt's Site Meter, but my computer died, and for whatever reason it didn't come up on my Treo. Thanks for the link to it. You know, I have three times now tried to post links to the Independent Sources link in Hiltzik's comments. My comments appear to be stuck in moderation. Funny . . . he has approved two comments by lefty supporters since the first two times I tried. My first two attempts were this afternoon. My third was at 8:45 this evening and included a link to your post as well. I saved that one. If it gets lost in perpetual moderation, I'll post it on my own site. Good catch.
#2 from John-Paul Pagano at 6:16 am on Apr 17, 2006
I have absolutely no dog in this fight, but I checked Hewitt's SiteMeter, and it does appear that his overall visits decreased by about 16.6% between January 1st and March 1st. Am I reading it wrong? For the record, Hiltzik's thesis that conservative stupidity is detracting from Hewitt's traffic is pretty Baghdad Bob in its distance from reality. If that's the case, why is the "blogosphere" a galaxy tilting over the event horizon into the intellectual black hole of Charles Johnson, Powerline and their ilk, leaving behind the supernova of Bush shills, lunatics and imbeciles who endlessly spiral forth from their example? But there is an increase since Nov. 1 and an even bigger one since Aug. 1. That's why you look at long-term trends. You don't pick out two random points like Hiltzik did, because it can be misleading -- as his data was. The other thing to note if you're a blogger, is that traffic is partly external-event-driven. Something big happens, a controversy hits that's on point for you, and up goes the traffic. This, in my observation, is where the greatest opportunities for long-term growth tend to lie. At levels lower than Hugh's, traffic will also be "monster post" driven, but the higher you go the less this is true. Hugh escaped the gravity well a long time ago.
#5 from RG at 3:19 pm on Apr 17, 2006
I'm quite sure that Hiltzik's attack is driving more visitors to Hewitt's blog, too. Not exactly a decrease in traffic as Hiltzik claims. Hmmm LATimes: dominant paper in a metro-area of over 9 million people with over a 1000 employees and millions of dollars at its disposal to publish and print a daily Newspaper. Versus Hugh Hewitt: Law professor, radio host and blogger who provides his content free of charge. Sounds like a valid comparison to me.
#7 from SPQR at 4:16 pm on Apr 17, 2006
Since Hugh's core offering is his radio show, a comparison to his radio audience would actually have some relevance. But there is nothing the LA Times is more allergic to than relevance.
#8 from Davebo at 6:26 pm on Apr 17, 2006
let me know if you see a secular decline You keep on using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. Unless of course we are judging Hugh's traffic over a lifetime or century. Um, davebo, points for the Inigo Montoya quote, but no, you're wrong In numerical descriptions, such as of a time series of numbers, a secular trend is the long-term upward or downward trend in the numbers, as opposed to a smaller cyclical variation with a periodic and short-term duration. Thanks for the language lesson, AL. I learned something new today!
#11 from frontinus at 10:04 pm on Apr 17, 2006
Are my eyes playing tricks on me or is that AL throwing rocks at someone for shoddy reporting? Are you ever going to get around to a front-page clarification(correction) on that or are you still investigating? Inquiring minds and all that. Oh, frontinus, I'm sorry - I never posted the followup from the prepaid calling industry newspaper... ..."here you go":http://www.prepaid-press.com/ppp/view_article.php?id=646While AT&T has invested money in a very risky environment in order to offer the service, there are questions about the propriety of restricting access to alternative carriers on the payphones AT&T provides in the exchanges. They reportedly have 10 technicians deployed in the region to maintain and operate the system.
#13 from frontinus at 12:17 am on Apr 20, 2006
Now if you can work your back-down from war profiteer to your current position onto the front page.... Quit nibbling around the edges and eat the whole crap sandwich. You made it afterall.
#14 from frontinus at 12:18 am on Apr 20, 2006
I still neither work for AT&T or invest in them. In case there were any lingering questions.
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