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May 19, 2006Hatewatch Briefing 2006-05-19 (April 2006)by Hatewatch at May 19, 2006 11:12 AM
Welcome! This briefing will be looking hard at the dark places the mainstream media sometimes seem determined to look away from, to better understand our declared enemies on their own terms and without illusions. Our goal is to bring you some of the top jihadi rants, idiotarian seething, and old-school Jew-hatred from around the world, leaving you more informed, more aware, and pretty disgusted every month. This Winds of Change.NET HateWatch briefing is brought to you by Omri Ceren of Mere Rhetoric. Past briefings and posts on related topics can be found here. HIGHLIGHTED TOPICS
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Omri, You might want to add this new innovation from the Mad Mullahs of Iran that I just linked to: FDI: Iranian Majles to require badges for Jews, Christians RBT
#2 from PD Shaw at 4:47 pm on May 19, 2006
Iranian Majles to require badges for Jews, Christians And Zorastrians And hemp neckties for Baha'i.
#4 from J Thomas at 2:03 pm on May 22, 2006
There have been various reports that the religious color-coding stuff is disinformation. http://www.indybay.org/news/2006/05/1824374.php Here is the beginning of the Haaretz report: For a few hours on Friday, many around the world were ready to believe a report in the media that Iran had decided that Jews living there would be forced to wear a yellow strip of material on their clothing to denote their religion. Leaders of international Jewish organizations were quick to respond, and likened the decision to the Nuremberg Laws of Nazi Germany. Yesterday, after it emerged that the report had been false, the affair of "the yellow patch that wasn't" left us with one lesson: The world is ready to believe anything when it comes to a country ruled by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
#5 from PD Shaw at 5:38 pm on May 22, 2006
The patch story appears to be untrue, but I think its too early to know whether it was "disinformation," as opposed to "misinformation." The newspaper's follow-up story suggests that the subject was brought up during debate and may have been raised by motion. I would be very surprised if the topic of patches hasn't come up from time to time. They were around for several hundred years and its very difficult to enforce some provisions of Islamic law if you can't distinguish people's faiths. I wish the comparison with NAZI Germany had not been made so quickly. Dhimmitude is different. For one thing, its better to be a Dhimmi than a Baha'i or an atheist. Relatively speaking, of course.
#6 from J Thomas at 7:46 pm on May 22, 2006
PD Shaw, the original source's follow-up quotes several experts in LA, London, and israel who give three completely different stories about where this news report might have come from. Meanwhile the original discredited story is still getting pushed hard in the far-right blogosphere getting the occasional echo here. The most charitable explanation I can see is the one from Haaretz, "The world is ready to believe anything when it comes to a country ruled by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad." We can wait to see the responses. Compare this to Rathergate, where Dan Rather received from an aparently-reputable source a document that turned out to be forged. On the other side of it, possibly it might turn out that the new iranian law does have some of the effect attributed to it. If it turns out that muslims in iran are required to dress a particular way that nonmuslims are not allowed to, then it's as if nonmuslims were required to wear a nonspecific badge that says they're nonmuslim.
#7 from PD Shaw at 3:56 am on May 23, 2006
The source of the story sticks to his guns:
#8 from J Thomas at 6:28 pm on May 23, 2006
PD Shaw, we should follow these results carefully. Benador Associates has a number of iran experts making reports, including Richard Perle and Michael Ledeen to mention the two most famous. It's possible that their purpose is to tell only true things, but if this item turns out to be as false as the MSM says it is, that would be some indication to be skeptical of later claims from them.
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