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September 18, 2006The Apologyby Demosophist at September 18, 2006 9:33 PM
A friend recently emailed me regarding the following MSM translation of Pope Benedict's response to Muslim outrage, regarding his reference to a Christian emperor's challenge that Islam provide some example of Muhammed's uniquely benevolent contribution: He said: "I am deeply sorry for the reactions in some countries to a few passages of my address at the University of Regensburg, which were considered offensive to the sensibility of Muslims." Actually, he said ''sono rammaricato'', which means something more like 'I'm disappointed', than 'I'm sorry', & with no hint of 'deeply' anywhere in there at all. Checking, I went to my Italian dictionary, which translates, rammaricarsi: To grieve, to regret; to complain; to fret. I can't find a direct translation of sono although my friend tells me that it's the first-person singular, present tense of the verb "to be". It may not be relevant, but the word sonoro means sonorous or resonant. The Pope's response seems to imply grave disappointment but it's not clear with whom. It's also probably sufficiently vague that it allows people who want to see the words as apologetic to do so. It would be undignified for the Pope to be flagrantly defiant of the Ummah, but he seems to have crafted a response that is both profoundly respectful, and deeply resonant with Manuel II Paleologus' original challenge. Tracked: September 19, 2006 3:46 AM
Where Are The Moderate Muslims? from Flopping Aces
Excerpt: But alas, none of it was good enough for the fanatics in the “religion of peace”. Who want only total obedience to their faith. If you do not submit you die.
This is the face of our new enemy.
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Tracked: September 19, 2006 5:53 AM
Why the Pope Apologized from RightLinx
Excerpt: In an earlier post on RightLinx titled "Muslims Offended by an Inconvenient Truth," I explained my support for Pope Benedicts words because he spoke the truth about Islamic history.
We all know by now that in a presentation to a German Catholic aca...
Tracked: September 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Muslims Continue Protests from Strategic Outlook Institute - Weblog
Excerpt: And the Religion of Peace, aka the Religion of Perpetual Outrage, aka the most violent peaceful Religion known hits second gear in its verbal assaults on the Pope. Let’s hope that the words of too many Islamic leaders for Pope Benedict XVI̵...
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#1 from FabioC. at 2:06 am on Sep 19, 2006
Yes, (io) sono means "I am". No, it's not related to sonoro. Long story tho. Sono rammaricato does mean that one is regretting that things went sour despite his best intentions - as an example, if your girlfriend gets mad about an innocent but misplaced remark. Sono rammaricato is anyway a formal expression; colloquially one would say mi dispiace, which can also mean "I am sorry". The difference is in the context; sincere apologies do not contain "but" statements.
#2 from Barry Meislin at 12:32 pm on Sep 19, 2006
From a fascinating interview with Bernard Lewis (hat tip Martin Kramer): Most religions have a sort of "relativist approach." That's the term that is used by the Catholic Church to indicate disapproval, but I'm using it to indicate approval. The relativist view would be something like this: Just as men have invented different languages to talk to each other, so they've invented different religions to talk to God, and God understands all of them. Perhaps not all equally well, but he understands all of them. There is an interesting passage in one of the sermons of Saint John Capistrano, a Franciscan. In one of his collected sermons, he says the Jews propagate this monstrous and absurd idea that everyone can be saved in his own religion. Now, Saint John Capistrano says many things about the Jews and the Muslims--both of whom he disliked intensely--but on that particular one he's right. The Talmud says the righteous of all faiths have a place in heaven. That's not the Christian or the Muslim point of view. We--whichever the "we" may be--we are the fortunate recipients of God's final message to mankind. If you accept that message, you will be saved. If you don't accept it, then your religion is either incomplete and superseded or false-incomplete and superseded if it's previous, false if it's subsequent. Where you have two religions making the same claim with the same self-perception and the same geographical area, you get this uninterrupted sequence of jihad and crusade. But that, I think, is also some ground for hope. I tried to make this point at a conference in Morocco. The theme of the conference was: Is a dialog of civilizations possible? I tried to make the point that the conflicts have arisen from resemblances rather than from differences, and this should, with goodwill on both sides, make a dialog possible.
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