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August 27, 2010

Setting the Bar Low, Setting the Bar High

By Porphyrogenitus at 16:05
How they control the horizontal, how they control the vertical.


In the Consistency thread one of our frequent commenters made a revealing remark which deserves to be highlighted separately, as it unintentionally confirmed the point of the post:

Unsurprisingly, moderate muslims appear to agree with you almost completely. That's a shocker. (My definition is that they don't try to kill us, or fund people who try to kill us.)
It isn't the snarky first part of this statement that is interesting; that's banal, and while revealing in its own way, it's de rigur for he sort of people we're talking about to on the one hand demand no one reach conclusions on the basis of necessarily limited information when it comes to them and their mascots, but who feel free themselves to rush to entirely unsupported conclusions regarding their opponents and targets, and express them in the snarkiest way possible, all the while holding the self-conception that they're stalwarts defending civil discourse. Of course, one commenter doesn't control anything, any more than I "create the narrative" (If only!). But this comment will be a useful example for how those who do set the terms of debate do so, and a facet of the mindset behind it.


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July 30, 2010

More Polls Like This One, Please

By Porphyrogenitus at 05:21
Not necessarily because of the specific issue, but I'm really keen on polls with this breakdown:
But while 76% of Mainstream voters think the United States should continue to build the fence, 67% of the Political Class are opposed to it.
We need a constant stream of polls showing "N% of the general electorate has this view, X% of the political class believes the opposite."

Not because the majority is always right, but because it's absolutely critical to repeatedly demonstrate on a range of issues how detached the governing class is from the people they govern, how alienated they are from the society they rule.

Which is also why, alas, such breakdowns are unlikely to get widespread mention in the Official Press.
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May 29, 2010

Politics and the Arabic Language

By Porphyrogenitus at 16:18
Musing a bit further on this article, particularly this section:
Next, our counterterror adviser evokes the perverse logic behind the administration's recent decision to censor words offensive to Muslims (which I closely explored in this PJM article):
Nor do we describe our enemy as "jihadists" or "Islamists" because jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one's community, and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children.
Inasmuch as he is correct in the first clause of that sentence -- "jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one's community" -- he greatly errs in the latter clause, by projecting his own notions of what constitutes "holy," "legitimate," and "innocent" onto Islam. In Islam, such terms are often antithetical to the Judeo-Christian/Western understanding. Indeed, the institution of jihad, according to every authoritative Muslim book on Islamic jurisprudence, is nothing less than offensive warfare to spread Sharia law, a cause seen as both "legitimate" and "holy" in Islam. As for "innocence," by simply being a non-Muslim infidel, one is already guilty in Islam. Brennan understands the definition of jihad; he just has no clue of its application. So he is left fumbling about with a square peg that simply refuses to pass through a round hole.

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March 3, 2010

Amnesty International Endorses Taliban, Fires Gender Equality Staffer

By Joe Katzman at 00:50

More "Led by the Stupid and Loathsome," I'm afraid. Seems that Gita Sahgal led Amnesty International's gender-affairs unit until very recently. When she was recruited, she was up front about needing to fix a very troubling connection for Amnesty: Moazzam Begg, a a British citizen who was captured in Pakistan in 2001 and known as "Britain's most famous supporter of the Taliban."

Begg still believes in the Taliban's ideals, you see, and he and his organization continue to defend them, and to promote a global Islamic Caliphate. Amnesty International was happy to make him a minor celebrity and endorse him, because he was incarcerated at Guantanamo Bay from 2001-2005. The fact that he also supports treating women like animals, preaching hatred against other religions, etc., and still says that the Taliban's corpse filled rule was the best thing that happened to Afghanistan.... well, that bothered Ms. Sahgal. Amnesty International? They didn't really give a ---.

So, not realizing that torture, executions, and the denial of people's rights because they were born female are OK if endorsed by an Amnesty-approved source, longtime Amnesty employee Ms. Saghal told a reporter from the London Times that she thought the link to Begg tainted Amnesty.

Clearly, something had to be done about this, and done right now.


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November 3, 2009

On Asymmetric Warfare: Byzantine Grand Strategy in the 11th and 21st Centuries

By Porphyrogenitus at 16:35
This follows my first and second posts in this series, as well as other related posts.

As is obvious by my web-name, it's no state secret that I'm into the Eastern Roman (aka "Byzantine") Empire. Back when I was a Freshman in Uni I read Edward Luttwak's excellent Grand Strategy of the Roman Empire, a work I highly recommend. Well he has completed the obvious sequel, a book on the Grand Strategy of the Byzantine Empire.

In Foreign Policy Luttwak has an article recommending the essential features of this strategy to the United States. I would argue that we already follow most of them, including a pernicious corruption of them that the Byzantines themselves engaged in during the 11th Century.
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October 11, 2009

Indulgences

By Armed Liberal at 17:41

Back in the 16th Century, the Catholic Church got in trouble because - among other things - it allowed the wealthy to buy grace. They could pay the Church and be forgiven their sins - presumably freeing them to go right on sinning.

I've remarked in the past (can't find the posts, and I'm in a hurry to go do chores) that one thing that's made me uncomfortable with modern liberalism is my observation that the staunch liberals that I know are often pretty bad people; their personal behavior is often worse than the staunch conservatives I know. And that troubles me a lot.

While we like to believe we live our lives flying high in the rarified air of ideas and policies and grand dreams, the reality is that we live it sandwiched between our neighbors. And to me, any value system that privileges the ethereal while ignoring the concrete is suspect. What is, is.

I've taken some shots for this from progressives who have challenged my notions for a lot of reasons; the plural of anecdote is definitely not fact, etc.

But now, someone's gone and done a study. Nina Mazar and Chen-Bo Zhong at the University of Toronto (pdf - h/t Register UK):

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July 5, 2009

"Hello," He Lied

By Armed Liberal at 05:41

...so I'm reading all the books that TG bought me from my Amazon Wish List, and this morning I picked up Andrew Bacevich's 'The Limits of Power: The End of American Exceptionalism.' I just finished Niebuhr's 'The Irony of American History' which Bacevich wrote the preface to, and had finished that book mulling over the notion that Bacevich had flatly misread Niebuhr, and that Niebuhr's book was more in the spirit of Ellul than of Chomsky.

So, anyway, I pick up Bacevich's own book, and the opening words are:
Introduction: War Without Exits

For the United States, the passing of the Cold War yielded neither a "peace dividend," nor anything remotely resembling peace.

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June 8, 2009

Civilization, Citizenship, Insurrection, and Tiller/Long

By Joe Katzman at 05:46

Armed Liberal's "What Terrorism Looks Like Today," about the Tiller and Long murders, provides a useful takeoff point. It also feeds into a recent piece written by Dr. Jack Wheeler, of To The Point. In it, Jack starts with a good question:

"Someplace in the South there is a flamboyant slave owner who vehemently supports his right to own fellow human beings as his personal property and is infamous for treating them as sub-human. An abolitionist is so angry at this slaver's evil that he kills him, blows him away with a 12 gauge - both barrels.

Pro-slavers everywhere and dozens of newspapers in the South condemn the killing as a "vigilante outrage." Some even declare the murdered slaver as a "saint" who defended the freedom of "real people" to own things that aren't fully human.... The question to ask a pro-abortionist is: would you side with the pro-slavers or not?"

It's actually a fine question. On a structural level, the abortion and slavery debates are essentially identical. The same is true for some of the more militant animal rights positions re: animal experimentation, though that isn't a comparison conservatives are as comfortable with. The core of the debate goes to deeply-held conceptions about where human/sentient consideration should begin - and as "The Wedge and the Thoughtless" points out, these debates tap into peoples' considered and deep beliefs.

Jack Wheeler has earned my respect in other areas. The problem is that he goes from this starting point into terrain that, as far as I'm concerned is nucking futs...


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May 31, 2009

Murder Most Foul

By Marc Danziger at 20:37

News is breaking that Kansas physician George Tiller - known as one of the few doctors in America who perform late-term abortions - was murdered in his church today.

This is terrorism, pure and simple, and the federal government needs to devote antiterror resources to solving this crime and shutting down the people who committed and supported it.

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February 23, 2009

Climate Change and Bar Fights

By Armed Liberal at 17:23

So was reading John Quiggin over at Crooked Timber writing about climate change, and something crystallized in my thinking a bit.

Here's Quiggin:
In one sense, the blogosphere has reached a near-universal consensus on climate change. Everyone who follows the issue at all closely agrees that there is no real debate. Instead, it's generally agreed, we have a situation where (1) a large body of people devoted to serious scientific research is confronted by (2) pushers of silly Internet talking points who are ideologically motivated, financially driven or just plain delusional . The only disagreement is which group is which.
I'll get to my own beliefs and prescriptions in a bit; what's interesting to me is that Quiggin neatly sets out what makes me so uncomfortable with the state of the argument today. It's the tone of the people who are pushing hard for Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW).

In my somewhat misspent youth, I put myself in places where I often encountered stupidly aggressive people. Bars. And there's an interesting point about aggressive people in bars; you should pay close attention to the ones who are loudly threatening to kick your ass - but you don't need to be afraid of them. Because if they were serious, they would already be kicking your ass, not just telling you about it.

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December 6, 2008

Somewhere Over the Rainbow?

By Demosophist at 05:21

We seem to have entered a kind of twilight world where it’s not easy to take either victory or defeat seriously unless there’s a pretense of cynicism, or a claim to being “on the inside" of some great game. There’s even a kind of ideological petulance and demoralization about the liberal reform project that realigns conservatives with the multicultural left, binding intolerance and impotence into an ironically self-directed schadenfreude... while the financial nebulous remains a terrifying cipher.

But we’ve been here before.


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December 1, 2008

Political Weenie Report: Why Cure a White Male Disease?

By Joe Katzman at 02:49

I went to Carleton University in Ottawa, the 2nd coldest capital city in the world (Moscow is 3rd). Served a year as VP of the student council there, after running on a campaign slate named Apathy that used posters including Darth Vader ("tired of choosing the lesser evil?") and George Santayana (included list of broken campaign promises from last 2 years, followed by "people who do not remember history are condemned to repeat it" quote). It was a lot of fun, and it didn't end with the campaign. As one example among many, I'm sure my parents still remember me showing up for High Holidays with a Mohawk. I had promised to get one in public if the students raised $50,000 for Cystic Fibrosis research in the annual Shinerama charity fundraiser. They did. So I did.

Only one problem: where the hell do you find a square yamulkah? But so what. I had a childhood friend with CF, a disease that drowns kids. Making a dent in that is something to be proud of.

I will say, though, that the people involved in student politics were a very different population from the university students at large- and not always in salutary ways. Recently, that was illustrated by a motion to stop supporting cystic fibrosis as Carleton's orientation week charity. Why?

Because it "has been recently revealed to only affect white people, and primarily men."


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