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September 25, 2003Dan's Iraq Report: 2003-09-25by Dan Darling at September 25, 2003 6:43 AM
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Other Topics Include: Iraqi minister dies; Spanish take over in Najaf; Northern front proggress; Terrorists attacking commuter buses, cinemas; The WMD hunt; Al-Jazeera gets the boot from new Iraqis; Baghdad's unusual hit CDs; Another Ba'ath Poker surrender; Support the troops. REPORTS FROM THE FIELD
THE WMD HUNT
THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE
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#1 from Jeff Weintraub at 4:39 pm on Sep 25, 2003
Regarding: This links to the wrong article. True, thanks. Fixed. Open italics tag. after "The Christian Science Monitor".
#4 from Tony Foresta at 5:26 am on Sep 26, 2003
With all due respect and accepting that the media does manipulate the message, and that the complete story and picture of what is actually happening in Iraq in uncertain and unclear, - one abuse does not excuse the other. We all must accept that "The Iraq war has predictably evolved into a guerrilla conflict similar to Vietnam. Our currently stated objectives are to establish reasonable security and foster the creation of a secular, representative government with a stable market economy that provides broad opportunity throughout Iraqi society. Attaining these objectives in Iraq would inevitably transform the Arab world and immeasurably increase our future national security. These are goals worthy of a fight, of sacrifice, of more lives lost now to save thousands, perhaps tens or hundreds of thousands in the future." The news is bleak, and to argue otherwise is denial. Yet we do deserve and must demand as these gentlemen point out - equal access to news of America's success in Iraq as well. Tony, not to ride you too hard, but have you ever studied the history of the war in Vietnam? I'll suggest that you check out one metric: the amount of military aid the Soviet Union gave the North Vietnamese. Exactly how different would the history have been had there been no USSR to offer that support? And who will be the supporters - on the same scale - of the combatants in Iraq? A.L. More to the point, even ignoring the difference in professionalism and training between US and Russian soldiers, thus far this hasn't been all that bloody war even by Islamist insurgency standards. Right now we're losing, off and on, about 1 soldier a day. Now compare that with Kashmir or Chechnya, where between 6 and 9 soldiers being killed is a good day.
#7 from Robin Roberts at 4:06 pm on Sep 26, 2003
Ah, but making an analogy to Vietnam means that Bush critics need not either think or formulate a real alternative. All such analogies reveal is a lack of understanding of Vietnam, a lack of understanding of Iraq, a lack of understanding of the Middle East and a fundamental lack of seriousness. A total examination of the reporters sitting in the hotel and demanding U.S. soldiers make them safe, and paint the hotel was printed in the Calendar Section of the LA Times. The link may now be down unless you pay. The LA Times link is: http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-et-williams19sep19,1,4413077.story If it is blocked, I have excerpts at: http://oraculations.blogspot.com/2003_09_01_oraculations_archive.html#106426374438823712 The article is praising these bastards but I think you will be as pissed as I was if you read it. Since the LAT link is not a week old you should be able to get to it. For some reason I screwed up the links above so here's the *LA TIMES* And *Here's mine*
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