Robert Kagan, Washington Post:
"We don't think the world's great nations and countries can be held hostage by non-state actors," Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said yesterday. Fair enough. But what is the world to do when those non-state actors operate from the territory of a state and are the creation of that state's intelligence services?"
Robert Kagan is dreaming about a UN that will act to place Pakistan's hinterlands in the equivalent of receivership. His question is correct, but his own piece acknowledges why there's no hope of success for the proposed remedy. Whatever the real plan is, it had better be able to leverage failure on that front.
Meanwhile, the "realists" at the Council for Foreign Relations have an article advancing a plan that has about 8-10 moving parts, each of which needs to succeed. The mathematically literate can surmise the odds. "From Great Game to Grand Bargain: Ending Chaos in Afghanistan and Pakistan" has a list of conditions that flag it as kind of stupid - but the hell of it is, they may well be on the right track anyway. Their suggestions:
"...establishment of a contact group on the region authorized by the UN Security Council. This contact group, including the five permanent members and perhaps others (NATO, Saudi Arabia), could promote dialogue between India and Pakistan about their respective interests in Afghanistan and about finding a solution to the Kashmir dispute; seek a long-term political vision for the future of the FATA from the Pakistani government, perhaps one involving integrating the FATA into Pakistan's provinces, as proposed by several Pakistani political parties; move Afghanistan and Pakistan toward discussions on the Durand Line and other frontier issues; involve Moscow in the region's stabilization so that Afghanistan does not become a test of wills between the United States and Russia, as Georgia has become; provide guarantees to Tehran that the U.S.-NATO commitment to Afghanistan is not a threat to Iran; and ensure that China's interests and role are brought to bear in international discussions on Afghanistan. Such a dialogue would have to be backed by the pledge of a multiyear international development aid package for regional economic integration, including aid to the most affected regions in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Central Asia, particularly the border regions."
I never fail to be amazed at the lying temerity of people who call themselves "realists," and then serve up stuff like the above. Going down the line...
- Kashmir is not going to be solved. There are reasons reason it hasn't been for over 40 years, and they go to the core of each state's self-definition. Unless you can explain what makes any current attempt different, from the points of view of India and of Pakistan, you're wasting our time. They do not offer that explanation.
- Pakistan is not capable of handling a fully integrated FATA, or making that stick, as it would mean war. That's why the tribal areas aren't integrated now. A UN resolution doesn't change that, and Europeans who can't commit 20 helicopters to a UN mission in Afghanistan aren't going to step in to make it happen.
- India is not going to become "transparent" re: the activities of its RAW intelligence agency per the authors' suggest elsewhere; and if by some miracle they did, Pakistan would never believe them.
- Tehran's meddling in Afghanistan is about to expanding its influence, and these days about securing a cut of the opium proceeds. Similar to its takeover of Lebanon. Tehran also knows that there are no valid outside reassurances re: whatever threats they perceive or fantasize from the USA, and will continue to work to export terrorism and keep the USA and others busy on general principle. Both pragmatic and religio-ideological principle. Iran also has quite a few senior al-Qaeda under its wing, which would change its relationship with a re-Talibanized Pashtunistan/Afghanistan.
- Russia won in Chechnya, and believes it would be able to win elsewhere in its Central Asian satellites using the same methods. They're probably correct. Unless and until that belief changes, Afghanistan is a step toward their vision of a weakened USA and NATO - not a threat to Russia.
Rubin and Rasheed's article is much stronger when they do return to realism in the correct sense of the term. For instance, they make a powerful case for Afghanistan's long-term inability to support the military required to secure itself from Pakistan's jihadis. Like the fact that the annual financial resources required to support its currently envisioned military will exceed total annual state revenues for at least the next decade. And it's not at all certain that a military of that size will be enough.
Pakistan is at something of a crossroads right now. The Mumbai Massacre could be a positive tipping point, if it forces the government to realize that the Pakistani state must either fight to win, or abandon control of the country's destiny to the jihadis it has so carefully fostered. But I'm a subscriber of the "Moneyball" theory of politics - and the past record of the current crew says they'll take payoffs from al-Qaeda, do nothing, then try to lie through their teeth about it.
Which is why Rubin and Rashid have a point about taking steps to isolate and pressure Pakistan, and engage other countries to amplify that pressure, as the main thrust of our opening strategic moves. Their most promising suggestion by far is to involve China more deeply in Pakistan's internal affairs, an outcome that would be strategically positive on several levels.
I would actually be inclined to try everything that Rubin and Rashid propose. Some of their suggestions do make sense, and as for the others... hey, every lottery has a winner, right?
What I wouldn't do is depend on any of their "brilliant ideas" actually coming to pass and making a difference. Their proposals are just a set of opening moves to develop the situation here in the midgame, and scope out the roles each of the surrounding players really intend to play.
At which point, it will be time for Plan B. I get no indications that Rubin and Rashid have one. But someone had better.








Chat for Westeners, as long as the main roots of terrorism aren't adressed. And they lie well beneath the surface.
I would simply refer you to your own topic of 26 Nov (The British View..) and the posts of TOC@12 and 16 and mine @14 & 15--says it all.....
We've talked here, many times, about the intractability of the Pakistan-Afghanistan nexus. I think we all agree on this, for a variety of reasons.
It seems to me that the two areas of greatest concern, at least concerning terror networks, are the ISI in Pakistan, and the Saudi Arabian elite, using all that oil money to fund a virulently ani-modern Islamic belief system, in many, many countries, from Afghanistan to Karthoum.
I haven't yet seen any good solutions offered to the two problems above, either by the left, right, or center.
Case in point on the problem with rich Saudis.
A Saudi reportedly has offered $10 million for just one of the shoes thrown at President Bush in Iraq
Now, that isn't the point of the article. Just illustrates my point. But consider - if a rich Saudi can spend that much money on a freaking shoe, just how much do you think the Saudi elite "privately" spend on various madrassa type establishments?
No one ever suggests how to begin to tackle the "Saudi problem".
hypoc: Finding (well, mentioning) the elephant in the room is uncommon enough. Actually getting the elephant out of the room? Without trashing the room in the process? Boy, that's a toughie.
I agree, hypoc. Among others, they are the Lords of Terror.
Nortius (#5)
Maybe we should simply leave the room, move to the next one. However, I don't see that happen until a breakthrough development in fusion technologies occur.
Hypocrisyrules...
My suggestion: Start assassinating the financiers. Who have a lot more concern for their hides than your average jihadi.
As is true for all covert ops, the assumption has to be that this will be exposed eventually. At which point the government must be able to shrug it off and continue. If it doesn't have the will to do that come crunch time, it doesn't have what it takes to start that program.
So step one is building the common understanding and will required to follow that course. Once that's built, the rest becomes much easier.
But Joe, the world wouldn't love us anymore. The Europeans would tsk tsk and shake their head in disappointment, and we'd alienate the Middle East. Why, it might even increase terrorism by giving the jihadis a new recruiting tool. You don't think President Obama is going to risk all that, do you?
Well, for that to even be contemplated, we would have had to move on from OIL as the main provider of cheap energy. The Saudis would immediately stop propping up the dollar, and selling/buying oil in terms of the dollar.
Basically, we would alienate the Saudis, and accept the consequences thereof.
Again, no official, Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal, has been willing to do this.
Shoot, if they aren't even willing to challenge Saudis publicly regarding funding of madrassas, in what world do you think they would be able to assassinate?
Bulls**t hypocracy. Arabs are as greedy as anybody else. Plus they're savages who put very little value on human life. The remaining oil sheiks would probably be glad to see the ones we assassinate go. That would increase their own share of power and oil wealth.