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HateWatch Briefing 2005-12-02

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Welcome! This briefing will be looking hard at the dark places the mainstream media sometimes seem determined to look away from, to better understand our declared enemies on their own terms and without illusions. Our goal is to bring you some of the top jihadi rants, idiotarian seething, and old-school Jew-hatred from around the world, leaving you more informed, more aware, and pretty disgusted every month. This Winds of Change.NET HateWatch briefing is brought to you by Omri Ceren of Mere Rhetoric. Past briefings and posts on related topics can be found here.

HIGHLIGHTED TOPICS

  • Religious Hate: Vicious honor killing in Britain; Murderous hatred surrounds suicide bomber movie "Paradise Now"; Anti-Semitism in Paris Intifada; Islamist bombings in Jordan; Anti-Semitism on American college campuses; Conspiracy theories swirl around Amman bombings; Christian eye specialist forced out by Islamists in Britain; Anti-Semitism in Germany now considered common and routine; Indian schoolbooks praise Hitler; Palestinian atrocities against homosexuals continue; Iranian press valorizes Holocaust denier; Michael Jackson is an anti-Semite; Religiously-inspired murders in Bangladesh; Terrorists exploit orphaned children in Kashmir; Anti-Semitism at Belgian soccer match; New York Mayoral candidate promises to fix rent by attacking Jews; Vatican paper probably does dehumanize homosexuals
  • Idiotarian Seethings: Jimmy Carter: Iraq invasion was a conspiracy; USA Today: Paris Intifada is 'civil disobedience'; Muslims identified as the new Jews; Ted Rall does not admire United States Armed Forces; Chris Matthews: Terrorism is just a perspective; BYU Prof: 9/11 was an insider job; Pat Robertson is an idiot
  • Race and Culture: Saudi teacher to be lashed for mocking Islam; Orthodox Jewish Rabbis try to ban the Internet; Vermont teacher uses grammar lesson to peddle anti-Bush propaganda; David Duke loves Syria, hates Israel
  • A Hopeful Note: Indonesian Muslims march against terrorism; Jordanians turn on Al Qaeda; Women elected to Chamber of Commerce in Saudi Arabia; Egyptian elections happen, women vote

Religious Hate:

  • Because of the ""shame and dishonour" brought on the family of his 16 year old girlfriend, 19 year old Arash Ghorbani-Zarin apparently had to be stabbed 46 times and killed by her two brothers. The young woman had refused to bow to her father's pressure for an arranged marriage.
  • Turns out, Muslim rioting in Paris really was kind of anti-Semitic:
    Moslem riots in France have fanned anti-Semitism, and four synagogues and Jewish schools have been firebombed, despite Jewish media reports that Jews are not being targeted more than others.
    Such actions have caused French Jews to flee France in ever greater numbers.
    In addition to hatred directed at other religions, one of the more general acts of seething hatred during the riots bears particular repeating (even a month later): the apparent need of the "disaffected youth" to douse a disabled woman with petrol and light her on fire to demonstrate their "disaffected-ness". All the national landmarks must have been too well guarded.
  • Islamists linked to Al Qaeda in Iraq murdered dozens by exploding three suicide bombs at a Jordanian wedding.
  • Somehow, an atmosphere in which the Jewish State is demonized and Stars of David are equated with swastikas has led to an increase in anti-Semitism on college campuses. One of the campuses picked out by the Zionist Organization of America as being of particular concern is the University of California Irvine. You can see pictures and other evidence of the rank anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism on that campus here and here and here.
    A push to make public colleges accountable for the intimidation brought to bear on students by professors and for the anti-Semitic speakers that their organizations sponsor failed in Congress this week.
  • An Egyptian Christian eye specialist has accepted an undisclosed sum of money after being fired from the hospital he worked at in Britain because he wasn't Muslim enough.
  • Anti-Semitic violence and vandalism is now so common in Germany that it's barely worth commenting on:
    Spiegel quoted provisional German Interior Ministry figures showing some 4,600 racist or anti-Semitic offences in the first half of this year. Between 2000 and 2004, nearly 60,000 such offences, including 4,000 involving violence, appeared in police statistics. He said attacks on Jewish cemeteries, nasty graffiti on walls and hate-filled letters to the Council of Jews or to Jewish communities were "so common that the news media hardly reports them".
  • The Gujarat state in India has published textbooks for school-children which focus on all the good things Hitler did but fail to mention any of the bad things - like the Holocaust.
  • Palestinian anti-gay atrocities receive virtually no attention from the typical anti-American / anti-Israel / anti-capitalist / anti-etc coalitions that have formed on the Left since 9/11. But they should:
    Much criticism has been leveled at gay organizations for their reluctance to make much ado about the Iranian government's public hanging of two gay youths this past summer. The incident was not a rarity in the Islamic world... While the outrage over gay organizations' indifference to the plight of Iranian gays was necessary, it ought to be directed toward a political situation
    where gay Americans can have more influence: the Arab-Israeli conflict... In the disputed territories run by the Palestinian Authority, gays are routinely harassed, tortured and murdered.
    A 2002 article in The New Republic magazine documented the dire predicament of several gay Palestinians. A 21-year-old recalled that he "was forced to stand in sewage water up to his neck, his head covered by a sack filled with feces, and then he was thrown into a dark cell infested with insects and other creatures he could feel but not see." One man fled to Tel Aviv, only to be captured by the Palestinian police upon his return to Nablus, a city in the West Bank. "They put him in a pit," a friend of the man recalled. "It was the fast of Ramadan, and they decided to make him fast the whole month but without any break at night. They denied him food and water until he died in that hole." Tel Aviv, Israel's flourishing gay hub, has become for Palestinian gays what Miami is for Cubans: a refuge of freedom from tyranny...
    Not surprisingly, gay rights groups have ignored gay Palestinians, as has the pre-eminent human rights organization Amnesty International. The Palestinian "struggle" has long been a cause celebre for the left.
  • A few weeks ago, The Tehran Times gave prominent attention to Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson. Presumably, this was the result of simple anti-Semitism, and not any complicated plot to assuage their consciences as they prepare to launch nuclear weapons at five million Jews.
  • Two judges have been murdered in Bangladesh for not refusing to allow the Koran to trump the laws that were passed by, you know, elected officials.
  • There's nothing like a massive earthquake to boost jihadist recruitment:
    Children orphaned by the Kashmir earthquake are being “adopted” by terrorist groups that hope to train them to fight in the jihad, or holy war, writes Dean Nelson. Pakistan’s leading human rights organisation, the Ansar Burney Welfare Trust, said jihadi groups fighting the Indian government were taking orphans off the streets and putting them in training camps. The organisation said it also had evidence that sympathetic government officials were passing children on to the jihadis to be looked after.
    We haven't worked through all the logic yet, but in the aftermath of a devestating act of God, aren't the people who claim to be God's representatives the default bad guys?
  • Mechelen striker Patrick Goots believes that his team would have done better in a soccer match between Mechelen and Antwerp if the Germans had done more "with the Jews in the gas chambers during World War One". This begs the question: if you're going to be an anti-Semite, is it better or worse if you're especially stupid?

Idiotarian Seethings:

  • Former United States President Jimmy Carter - having taken the memo that said that former Presidents do not attack sitting Presidents, burned it, encased the ashes in lead, and then dropped them into a volcano - is accusing President Bush of planning to invade Iraq before 9/11 and degrading the standards of American foreign policy. This is Jimmy Carter giving people advice on how to run a successful foreign policy. The punch line is left as an exercise for the reader.
  • Well this is just stupid:
    The riots in France that started in the Parisian suburbs are ringing alarm bells throughout Europe. These incidents of civil disobedience should serve as lessons to neighboring countries on how not to treat a minority population.
  • There is a theory that holds that one of the hallmarks of the intellectualized New Anti-Semitism is the move to marginalize atrocities committed against Jews (and thus remove the taboo against committing future ones) either by linking Jews to Nazis or by linking Muslims to Jews. The former tactic can be seen in the crude and hateful "Sharon = Hitler" and "Star of David = swastika" posters so often brandished by Leftist college activists. The latter is on display in this article from a Maine newspaper.
  • Ted Rall believes American troops are murderers and rapists and torturers - and he's willing to draw crude cartoons to prove it.
  • Chris Matthews is not an idiot. But sometimes his over-enthusiasm makes him sound like one:
    "The period between 9-11 and (invading) Iraq was not a good time for America. There wasn't a robust discussion of what we were doing," Matthews said.” If we stop trying to figure out the other side, we've given up. The person on the other side is not evil. They just have a different perspective.
  • At some point, these stories will become so tiring that the boredom will outweigh our need to know that there are still lunatics like this out there. But for now, we refer you to this BYU professor who believes that bombs planted inside the buildings - and not planes - brought down the World Trade Center towers. He also believes that "Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all" (he doesn't offer a theory as to who he thinks was responsible, but you don't have to try very hard to guess). This one is particularly dangerous because he adds the veneer of scientific language to what - no matter how much physics is attached to it - is just total moonbat craziness. Popular Mechanics dismantles his theory here.
  • Seriously, this guy just doesn't seem very smart:
    Conservative Christian televangelist Pat Robertson told citizens of a Pennsylvania town that they had rejected God by voting their school board out of office for supporting “intelligent design” and warned them Thursday not to be surprised if disaster struck.

Race and Culture:

  • In Saudi Arabia, saying nice things about Jews is an insult to Islam:
    A court in Saudi Arabia sentenced a teacher to 40 months in jail and 750 lashes for "mocking religion" after he discussed the Bible and praised Jews, a Saudi newspaper said on Sunday. Al-Madina newspaper said secondary school teacher Mohammad al-Harbi will be flogged in public after he was taken to court by his colleagues and students.
    750 lashes for "praising Jews."
  • What with Jews priding themselves on a 4,000 year history of scholarship and erudition, banning the Internet makes perfect sense.
  • When you live in a world of moral exhibitionism and facile elitism, where jokes about President Bush's intelligence have replaced small talk about the weather as the grease the oils chit-chat, pathetic and gratuitous slams at the Commander in Chief are just something you do:
    The school superintendent whose district includes Mount Anthony Union High School has labeled "inappropriate" and "irresponsible" an English teacher's use of liberal statements in a vocabulary quiz. "I wish Bush would be (coherent, eschewed) for once during a speech, but there are theories that his everyday diction charms the below-average mind, hence insuring him Republican votes," said one question on a quiz written by English and social studies teacher Bret Chenkin.
    Indeed, all Republicans are stupid and the reason this guy will be living the rest of his life as a failed high school teacher somewhere in rural Vermont is because of the vast rightwing conspiracy that successfully "shut him up" when he tried to expose the truth about the Bush administration's manipulation of simplistic Americans. But at least he'll feel better knowing that a fill-in-the-blank quiz that he wrote proves to him that he's smarter than the man occupying the highest office in the land.
  • Professional racist David Duke wants everybody to know that he's on Syria's side:
    Former US Louisiana Representative David Duke on Monday expresses solidarity with Syria in face of the pressures and threats against the country. Duke told a news conference at the 'Nation's Tent' at Rawda Square in Damascus that "I have come to Syria to express my support to the Syrian people and their just stances...it's the duty of every free man to reject the conspiracies and threats Syria is exposed to." He added that the pro-Israel neoconservatives in the US have influence on their country's foreign policy and have been working behind the scenes through their mass media in the US to hide "the reality of Israeli terrorism against the Arabs."…
    Duke expressed appreciation of Syria under the leadership of President Bashar al-Assad, saying he would do his bets to convey "the real peace-loving Syrian" stances to peoples across the world.
    Do you want to know a secret? By "neoconservatives", he means "Jews".

A Hopeful Note:

  • As Indonesian Muslims marched to condemn terrorism, new polling data showed that sentiments were turning against terrorism across the Muslim world. Instapundit has the goods.
  • Despite the almost unbearable sexual temptation that their totally covered presence posed to men, women participated in the recent Egyptian elections – which took place. Which is itself probably a good thing.

16 Comments

Dear Hatewatch,
After reading some of the posting I've been watching the sky to see if it's falling.
It's not.

The sky would only fall for Tom if his side lost the war. I suppose we could lengthen the "Hopeful Note" section to target him directly, but when a guy openly expresses support for al-Qaeda, why bother?

Though when you consider that last bit, the effort to minimize this sort of thing becomes pretty transparent.

Afraid Tom is more an example of some of the trends identified in our CIVIS: Hatred Rising topic archive than a legitimate critic of same.

Where's my grain of salt ?

tom - if you support al Qaeda, then I guess you represent the pro-hate contingent. Of course you would object when someone criticizes hate.

..and you're also opposed to American military actions. No surprises there.

Hate has killed more people worldwide than any nuclear weapon. All the Rwandan hutus needed was some hate, some radio broadcasts and a few machetes to wage genocide. Al Qaeda's brand of wahhabism has killed millions.

As a representative of the pro-hate contingent, why don't you tell us about how hate and genocide can help the world. How would reducing thousands of mothers, fathers and children to ash benefit you, personally? Tell us why your opinions should matter.

Tom:
That's the second ham-fisted, misguiged idiom you've made. The point of the Chicken Little fable is that Chicken Little is wrong. The point of "take it with a grain of salt" is that what's being said is incorrect. If there's anything in HateWatch that you find to be inaccurate, we urge you to bring it to our attention. Otherwise, if you insist on being obnoxiously glib, please do it in a less annoyingly dumb way.

If we stop trying to figure out the other side, we've given up. The person on the other side is not evil. They just have a different perspective.

How does saying this make Chris Matthews an idiot?

"The other side" is not a monolithic entity in the WoT. There's a spectrum of opposition, from the Egyptian who vaguely resents American influence in the Middle East, to the Palestinian who waves a green flag at Hamas rallies, to the angry Pakistani man who shelters al Qaeda operatives because his brother was disappeared by US forces, to the child-murdering Syrian terrorist in Iraq. I would argue that only the last is truly capital-E Evil -- the others may be moral people with a different (sometimes clouded) perspective.

We can't arrest, kill or dominate every anti-US person in the world; it is only by understanding their perspective that we can effectively prosecute the WoT in the long term.

Matt -- the "perspective" of the other side is illiberalism. You might recall the last bout we had with it; from 1933-1945. This Illiberalism is not concentrated on "Volk und Boden" within some gargantuan military empire, but distributed killing. It is all based on the same thing. Complete and total rejection of the modern world and hatred of scapegoats for the total failure of Islam to provide a model for society that "works" to provide wealth and prosperity for societies under it's rule.

There has been ZERO ZILCH NADA NONE invention from the Islamic world of any note in over 800 years. No notable scientific progress, no patents, and certainly no businesses. NOKIA in 2002 had a higher set of gross revenues than the entire NON-OIL exports of the Arab world. Without Oil the Muslims would be completely and totally irrelevant.

Is the sky falling? Yes. It was falling in a different way with Hitler's beer hall putsch in Munich in 1922, it was falling in 1933 when he took office (legally), it was falling in 1938 in the Munich conference. We don't have a massive organized state following "blud und boden" but the notion of the Ummah is just as illiberal and anti-modern. As your buddy Zarqawi says, "you submit or we slaughter." THAT is their message. They are angry that they are failurs and Islam is a failure so they resort to terror ... basically Tookie Williams with a philosophy and international organization based on religion.

Matt - It's worth noting that all of the 'anti-US' forces aren't in the Middle East. When he visited Damascus, why did British politician George Galloway say:
So I say to you, citizens of the last Arab country, this is a time for courage, for unity, for wisdom, for determination, to face these enemies with the dignity your [Syrian] president has shown, and I believe, God willing, we will prevail and triumph, fwa-salam aleikum.
..to a cheering Ba'thist audience? Why did Noam Chomsky tell the Egyptian press that America was planning to wipe out millions of Afghan muslims in a silent genocide? Why were a group of Italian peace activists collecting money to aid the insurgents in their campaign against America and the Iraqi people? Why did David Duke also travel to Syria to express solidarity with his fellow fascists? Your assumtion that "the other side" resides in the Middle East is biased, to say the least.

In a war against an enemy that uses hate as a weapon, it's always good to know as much as you can about that enemy. Thousands of men and women in the Middle East have protested against terrorism. Even if they're not big supporters of the US, I would consider them to be on 'our side'. Millions of people in the Middle East have been oppressed and killed by the Arabists' current campaign of ethnic cleansing. Few of those people were American, few were probably pro-US, but they are still the victims of our enemies.

Thousands of Iraqis are opposed to terrorism. Thousands of Europeans, and some Americans, support it. You're right, we can't arrest, kill or dominate every anti-US person in the world. But if we listen to the voices from 'the other side', and if we follow their advice, we will lose this war.

Jim:
Matt made a nuanced point, and you completely ignored it. Instead, you opted for the tired "they hate us because they suck" line.

Matt makes a good point. It is the violent idealogues that need to be stopped.

Bombastic rhetoric about victory just glosses over what it means. Does it mean A) kill every Muslim who dislikes Americans, B) "liberate" every country that refuses to bend its knee to American dominance, or C) to keep spouting hysterical rhetoric until everyone become enough of an anti-Muslim bigot for you? Which one of these points defines victory for you?

The lesson of the fable is that the sky is NOT falling (never does, never will), and the message for those thinky enough is don't ever fall for the type of anxiety generating list produced by "Hatewatch". It's frankly a bummer and whosoever writes it ought to be compelled to also write "Lovewatch".

Mary, Joe has it wrong. I support Al Kapp, not al Queda.
Please read the history of the Rwanada region that has been bloodied so many times going back to 1500's. The last tit for tat go around was nothing new at all, sadly.

I'm not "pro hate". gimme a break !
What I do hate is the smug recounting by Hatewatch of chosen 'hates' around the world, as if there be a heirarchical valuation of victimhood.

Omri, my grain of salt is what I was looking for after reading Joe's tiresome commentary about ME rather than about my post.

Tom - no, you support al-Qaeda. These were your words, and nobody compelled you to speak them:

"Iraq is a nation that got rolled over with tanks twice in the last decade without hardly defending itself at all. One can only be amazed at the current efforts of the patriot freedomfighters in Iraq to throw out the foreign occupiers."

People who say things like this can legitimately be called to account for it - especially when they proceed to opine on topics like Islamist hate. I would rightfully take the opinions of a man who expressed admiration for Hitler with a mountain of salt, were he then to opine that concerns over neo-nazi activities were hysterical.

You, sir, have chosen whom you stand with. You cheer the beheaders of hostages on film, the murderers of children and of crowds gathering outside mosques to pray. You cheer for, and support, a combination of foreign theocrat fanatics whose goal is quite literally global slavery, and the former einsatzgruppen and torturers of a fascist regime.

That makes you, sir, an exponent and supporter of hate. Hence utterly, completely unqualified to be taken seriously when venturing opinions regarding the seriousness of same.

Or of pretty much anything else, for that matter.

>>You, sir, have chosen whom you stand with. You cheer the beheaders of hostages on film, the murderers of children and of crowds gathering outside mosques to pray. You cheer for, and support, a combination of foreign theocrat fanatics whose goal is quite literally global slavery, and the former einsatzgruppen and torturers of a fascist regime.

This may be true. That said, there are those who are violently resisting the US occupation who are not fascists, not theocrats, not terrorists, and not former supporters of Saddam. They likely aren't the majority, but they do exist.

>>Ted Rall believes American troops are murderers and rapists and torturers - and he's willing to draw crude cartoons to prove it.

There seems to be quite a bit of evidence that at least SOME American troops are murderers and rapists and torturers. No crude cartoons are necessary to demonstrate that. It would be just as unreasonable to conclude that ALL US troops are torturers and rapists as it would be to conclude that ALL Iraqi insurgents are terrorist decapitators.

>>We can't arrest, kill or dominate every anti-US person in the world; it is only by understanding their perspective that we can effectively
prosecute the WoT in the long term.

Actually, Matt, yes we can. We have thousands of nuclear weapons. If Mecca and Medina turned to radioactive ash tomorrow, the impotence of the Muslim fanatics' False God Allah would be revealed for all to see. If Iraqi towns with a significant insurgent presence were bathed in nerve gas, "our problems [t]here would be over very quickly."

All it would cost us would be our humanity. The weapons are already bought and paid for.

TJ's point in #12 may be true. But such support, once expressed, is not thus divisible.

It was al-Qaeda's Zarqawi who ran Fallujah as the nerve center of the effort Tom Vikander supports - and its accompanying torture chambers, snuff film factories, etc.

That Shi'ites are targeted for Klan-style sectarian attacks at their mosques (burning churches, anyone?) and other gathering places, as a deliberate policy of ethnic bullying led by many of the same people who once fed them feet-first through industrial shredders, is also undeniable.

That children are targeted as acts of deliberate policy by the people Tom supports is also undeniable.

And Tom cannot excuse his support for fascism with mealy-mouthed denials that these are not the people he supports. He did not qualify, nor would such qualification be persuasive in light of the overwhelming evidence re: the true goals, nature, and agenda of the people he lionizes.

It's a set of goals and agendas that is intimately connected with many of the stories we regularly feature here in Hatewatch. And that is whyone vert important reason why Winds will continue to run the feature.

I can understand - perfectly - why Tom would seek to shut Hatewatch down. Talking about this stuff isn't congenial to the Islamofascist enemy he sides with. To which we reply: too bad.

Joe, let's look at Mr. Vikander's statement very literally:

"Iraq is a nation that got rolled over with tanks twice in the last decade without hardly defending itself at all. One can only be amazed at the current efforts of the patriot freedomfighters in Iraq to throw out the foreign occupiers."

I'm willing to bet that at least a few US soldiers and a few Iraqi civilians are serious about about bringing freedom to Iraq, and consider the eviction of "foreign occupiers" like Zarqawi from Iraq to be a high priority. Perhaps these are the "freedom fighters" Mr. Vikander is referring to?

I'm thinking that Joe's style is the foaming -at -the -mouth stuff, from the reaction I've garnered from him.
What is he hiding? Are people here intimidated by his style, or what?

Thank goodnes there are cooler heads such as T.J Madison's here, who can carry an academic discussion without going snakey.

Joe quit your "you" statements; I've had enough of that oppressive device !

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