Winds of Change.NET: Liberty. Discovery. Humanity. Victory.



Formal Affiliations

Anti-Idiotarian Manifesto
Euston Democratic Progressive Manifesto
Real Democracy for Iran!
Support Denamrk
Million Voices for Darfur
milblogs
Prev | List | Random | Next | Join
Powered by RingSurf!

e-Syndication

August 27, 2008

Hillary's Speech

by Armed Liberal at August 27, 2008 3:43 AM

In a hotel watching TV. Hillary's going on stage...

...admit it. You want her to tell her supporters to cut loose, mount a coup and force a vote tomorrow. A little real history at one of these freeze-dried conventions...

Update: You know she's actually giving a stemwinder of a speech...


TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.windsofchange.net/windsopcentre-cms/trackback.cgi/8065

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference
"Hillary's Speech"

Comments
#1 from Grim at 4:14 am on Aug 27, 2008

The "my mother / my daughter / Harriet Tubman" piece was probably the single best speech she's ever given. The boilerplate all around it wasn't very impressive, but that was the best I've ever seen the lady.

They'll miss her after tonight.

#2 from Glen Wishard at 5:04 am on Aug 27, 2008
They'll miss her after tonight.

They're going to wish they'd missed her tonight, too.

This kind of thing is no-win. If she sucked, it would look like she was too tepid for Obama. And the more she doesn't suck, the worse it makes the Biden Blunder look.

But if I could have mind-controlled Hillary for ten seconds, I would have said: "Take a good look, little girls. This is the glass ceiling we've been telling you about."

#3 from Independent George at 3:31 pm on Aug 27, 2008

What's a stemwinder? I've heard the term come up several times re: her speech, and I honestly don't know what it means.

#4 from Mark Buehner at 3:33 pm on Aug 27, 2008

"What's a stemwinder?"

A shrub-seeking missile?

#5 from Grim at 4:27 pm on Aug 27, 2008

"Stemwinder" is a piece of Americana -- it originated as a term of praise in the 19th century, likening someone or something to the invention of a "stem" attached to a watch in order to wind it. Previously, you'd needed a key to wind your watch.

So, in the 19th century, Americans would say of something particularly excellent that it was 'a real stem-winder.'

I'm not sure exactly when the phrase became limited to particularly rousing, powerful speeches, but I believe it was in the Progressive era, when such speeches would be delivered to small farmers and workers to gin up their emotions to get out and vote. It was an early version of the turnout concept: work people up into a frenzy about it, and they'll go vote tomorrow. It tends to emotional rhetoric rather than intellectual rhetoric because the purpose is to fire the emotions. That's not to say it's wrong, just that the point isn't to build a logical argument -- the point is to take things you already think people believe, and build an emotional fire in them about those things.

Probably the classic example in modern politics was Sen. Zell Miller's speech to the Republican National Convention in 2004. That was a classic stemwinder.

#6 from Nortius Maximus at 5:37 pm on Aug 27, 2008

This might be folk etymology, but I always thought it related to the speech being one that "winds people up" (like a spring-powered escapement watch), rather than to the novelty and ingeniousness of the watch stem per se. As such, it'd not be a generic for niftyness, but more specific for "rousing" or "invigorating".

#7 from Grim at 6:30 pm on Aug 27, 2008

Folk or not, it's a pretty good reading of the term.

#8 from Glen Wishard at 6:43 pm on Aug 27, 2008

It wasn't all emotional rhetoric. I admit zoning off during much of it - Scots-Irish genetic defense against dunderheaded economics preached by people who have never done anything resembling work.

But I heard her admit that McCain was her friend - an exceedingly discordant note to sound in front of the Hitler-braying proggies. If she were just beating the drum she could have ignored that fact; I've seen plenty of others do it.

#9 from Independent George at 3:54 am on Aug 28, 2008

Thanks, all for the language lesson.

But I heard her admit that McCain was her friend - an exceedingly discordant note to sound in front of the Hitler-braying proggies.

But to hear McCain tell it, pretty much everybody's his friend.

Post a comment

Here are some quick tips for adding simple Textile formatting to your comments, though you can also use proper HTML tags:

*This* puts text in bold.

_This_ puts text in italics.

bq. This "bq." at the beginning of a paragraph, flush with the left hand side and with a space after it, is the code to indent one paragraph of text as a block quote.

To add a live URL, "Text to display":http://windsofchange.net/ (no spaces between) will show up as Text to display. Always use this for links - otherwise you will screw up the columns on our main blog page.

Finally, note that a constant onslaught of Trackback spams from auto-generated blogspot blogs has forced Winds to ban the blogspot.com domain from use in comments or trackbacks. If you host on blogspot, consider moving; otherwise, the complaints need to be directed at Google not us.










Archives By Category
-FEATURES: 48 Ways to Wisdom (24)
-FEATURES: Diaries & Roundups (10)
-FEATURES: Military Transformation Uplink (12)
-FEATURES: New Energy Currents (20)
-FEATURES: Reader Highlights (2)
-FEATURES: Regional Briefings (166)
-FEATURES: Sufi Wisdom (158)
-FEATURES: The Bard's Breath (32)
-FEATURES: Winds of Discovery (6)
-FEATURES: Winds of War [WoT] (445)
4 HA: 4th-Gen Warfare (103)
4 HA: al-Qaeda (159)
4 HA: Crime, Organized (26)
4 HA: Evil Exists (111)
4 HA: Intelligence/Spycraft (101)
4 HA: Military (531)
4 HA: Nukes, Poisons, Germs (136)
4 HA: Statecraft (29)
4 HA: War on Terror articles (710)
Best Of... (180)
BIZ: Business & Organizations (137)
BIZ: Economics (103)
BIZ: Energy (75)
CIVIS (236)
CIVIS: Copyright Wars (25)
CIVIS: Drug Wars (18)
CIVIS: Edu-Kooks (76)
CIVIS: Free Societies (296)
CIVIS: Hall of Shame (164)
CIVIS: Hatred Rising (114)
CIVIS: Journalism & Media (413)
CIVIS: Spirit of America.NET (32)
CIVIS: War Within the West (313)
COLUMNISTS: M. Simon (13)
COLUMNISTS: Tarek Heggy (33)
GEO: Afghanistan (80)
GEO: Africa (104)
GEO: Asia (117)
GEO: Aussies & Kiwis (22)
GEO: Canada (72)
GEO: China (87)
GEO: Europe (183)
GEO: France (71)
GEO: India-Pakistan (114)
GEO: Iran (224)
GEO: Iraq (968)
GEO: Israel (249)
GEO: Koreas (64)
GEO: Latin America (63)
GEO: Middle East (257)
GEO: Russia (83)
GEO: Saudi Arabia (64)
GEO: Sudan (36)
GEO: U.K. (71)
GEO: U.N. (61)
GEO: U.S. of A (506)
HUMANITY (89)
HUMANITY: Art & Culture (161)
HUMANITY: Art - Music (32)
HUMANITY: Art - Poetry (6)
HUMANITY: Christianity (53)
HUMANITY: Heroes & Achievements (232)
HUMANITY: History (126)
HUMANITY: Islam (184)
HUMANITY: Judaism (137)
HUMANITY: Love (32)
HUMANITY: Philosophy (49)
HUMANITY: Spirituality & Religion (74)
HUMANITY: Zen & Buddhism (28)
Humour (200)
Misc. (44)
NET: Blogosphere (397)
NET: Cyber-Security (16)
NET: Grid Computing (3)
NET: Spam (24)
NET: The Internet (39)
NET: The Open Source Meme (18)
Personal (199)
SCI-TECH: Biotech & Medical (84)
SCI-TECH: Eco-tech (82)
SCI-TECH: Nanotech (27)
SCI-TECH: Science (113)
SCI-TECH: Space (75)
SCI-TECH: Technology (146)
SPORTS (45)
SPORTS: Baseball (76)
Trends (66)
USA: America Catch-all (20)
USA: Anti-Americanism (6)
USA: California Politics (16)
USA: Conservatives & GOP (43)
USA: Dem Party Renewal (77)
USA: Domestic Issues (56)
USA: Elections (132)
USA: Grand Strategy (15)
USA: Homeland Security (106)
VictoryPAC (3)
Winds of Change.NET (56)

Archives by Date
Winds Blogroll



Recent Entries

Support Winds of Change.NET!


Your support & assistance is greatly appreciated, and makes a difference!
The Winds Crew:

Town Founder:
Joe Katzman
joe {at} windsofchange. net
Joe's Normblog Interview

Left-Hand Man:
Marc 'Armed Liberal' Danziger
armed {at} windsofchange. net
A.L.'s Normblog Interview

Other Winds Marshals
'AMac', aka. Marshal Festus (AMac@...)
Robin "Straight Shooter" Burk
'Cicero', aka. The Quiet Man (cicero@...)
David Blue (david.blue@...)
'Lewy14', aka. Marshal Leroy (lewy14@...)
'Nortius Maximus', aka. Big Tuna (nortius.maximus@...)

Other Regulars
'Callimachus' (callimachus@...)
'Demosophist' (demosophist@...)
Rev./Maj. Donald Sensing
'Molon Labe' (molon.labe@...)
'Neo Neo-Con'
Tarek Heggy (tarek@...)

Semi-Active:
Arthur Chrenkoff
'Gabriel Gonzalez' (in Paris)
Tim Oren (tim@...)
Trent Telenko (trent@...)

Posting Affiliates
Athena: Terrorism Unveiled
Chester: The Adventures of Chester
Dave Schuler: The Glittering Eye
Grim: Grim's Lair et. al. Joel Gaines [Russia]
Michael Totten
MILblogging.com: The MilBlogs directory
Murdoc [Military]
Situational Awareness team [Military]
Nathan Hamm [Central Asia]
Randy Paul [Latin America]
Robert Koehler [Koreas]
Robi Sen [India & S. Asia]
Nitin Pai [India & S. Asia]
Simon [China & E. Asia]
Yehudit: Kesher Talk

Emeritus:
Adil Farooq (adil@...)
Andrew Olmsted [KIA, Iraq]
Celeste Bilby (celeste@...)
Dan Darling
Gary Farber (gary@...)
Hossein Derakhshan (hoder@...)
T.L. James (tljames@...)
Robin Burk (robin@...)


Winds of Change.NET Blogkids & Affiliates

·
The Argus: covering Central Asia
· Canis Iratus: Glen Wishard
· Correct-Amundo: Tech & society
· Discarded Lies: Ev & Zorkie
· The Flying Kiwi: Donovan Janus
· The Glittering Eye: Dave Schuler
· Gumptionology: Nortius Maximus
· Hot Needle of Inquiry: 'Jinnderella'
· Laughing Wolf: C. Blake Powers
· Out The Mazoo: 'Mazoo'
· Power and Control: M. Simon
· Praktike's Place: 'Praktike'
· Random Probabilities: Robin Burk
· Siberian Light: covering Russia
· The Spirit of Man

· Good News From the Front
· WATCH/: covering the war on terror

Archives By Category
-FEATURES: 48 Ways to Wisdom (24)
-FEATURES: Diaries & Roundups (10)
-FEATURES: Military Transformation Uplink (12)
-FEATURES: New Energy Currents (20)
-FEATURES: Reader Highlights (2)
-FEATURES: Regional Briefings (166)
-FEATURES: Sufi Wisdom (158)
-FEATURES: The Bard's Breath (32)
-FEATURES: Winds of Discovery (6)
-FEATURES: Winds of War [WoT] (445)
4 HA: 4th-Gen Warfare (103)
4 HA: al-Qaeda (159)
4 HA: Crime, Organized (26)
4 HA: Evil Exists (111)
4 HA: Intelligence/Spycraft (101)
4 HA: Military (531)
4 HA: Nukes, Poisons, Germs (136)
4 HA: Statecraft (29)
4 HA: War on Terror articles (710)
Best Of... (180)
BIZ: Business & Organizations (137)
BIZ: Economics (103)
BIZ: Energy (75)
CIVIS (236)
CIVIS: Copyright Wars (25)
CIVIS: Drug Wars (18)
CIVIS: Edu-Kooks (76)
CIVIS: Free Societies (296)
CIVIS: Hall of Shame (164)
CIVIS: Hatred Rising (114)
CIVIS: Journalism & Media (413)
CIVIS: Spirit of America.NET (32)
CIVIS: War Within the West (313)
COLUMNISTS: M. Simon (13)
COLUMNISTS: Tarek Heggy (33)
GEO: Afghanistan (80)
GEO: Africa (104)
GEO: Asia (117)
GEO: Aussies & Kiwis (22)
GEO: Canada (72)
GEO: China (87)
GEO: Europe (183)
GEO: France (71)
GEO: India-Pakistan (114)
GEO: Iran (224)
GEO: Iraq (968)
GEO: Israel (249)
GEO: Koreas (64)
GEO: Latin America (63)
GEO: Middle East (257)
GEO: Russia (83)
GEO: Saudi Arabia (64)
GEO: Sudan (36)
GEO: U.K. (71)
GEO: U.N. (61)
GEO: U.S. of A (506)
HUMANITY (89)
HUMANITY: Art & Culture (161)
HUMANITY: Art - Music (32)
HUMANITY: Art - Poetry (6)
HUMANITY: Christianity (53)
HUMANITY: Heroes & Achievements (232)
HUMANITY: History (126)
HUMANITY: Islam (184)
HUMANITY: Judaism (137)
HUMANITY: Love (32)
HUMANITY: Philosophy (49)
HUMANITY: Spirituality & Religion (74)
HUMANITY: Zen & Buddhism (28)
Humour (200)
Misc. (44)
NET: Blogosphere (397)
NET: Cyber-Security (16)
NET: Grid Computing (3)
NET: Spam (24)
NET: The Internet (39)
NET: The Open Source Meme (18)
Personal (199)
SCI-TECH: Biotech & Medical (84)
SCI-TECH: Eco-tech (82)
SCI-TECH: Nanotech (27)
SCI-TECH: Science (113)
SCI-TECH: Space (75)
SCI-TECH: Technology (146)
SPORTS (45)
SPORTS: Baseball (76)
Trends (66)
USA: America Catch-all (20)
USA: Anti-Americanism (6)
USA: California Politics (16)
USA: Conservatives & GOP (43)
USA: Dem Party Renewal (77)
USA: Domestic Issues (56)
USA: Elections (132)
USA: Grand Strategy (15)
USA: Homeland Security (106)
VictoryPAC (3)
Winds of Change.NET (56)

Archives by Date
Winds Blogroll


Powered by:
LighTTPD web server
Ubuntu Linux
Movable Type
Hosted by Pixelgate