Winds of Change.NET: Liberty. Discovery. Humanity. Victory.

Formal Affiliations
  • Anti-Idiotarian Manifesto
  • Euston Democratic Progressive Manifesto
  • Real Democracy for Iran!
  • Support Denamrk
  • Million Voices for Darfur
  • milblogs
Syndication
 Subscribe in a reader

The 2004 Race: Fits and Splits

| 5 Comments | 1 TrackBack

This seems about right based on what I've seen, after you strip the partisan b.s. away. QandO notes:

"Senator Kerry isn't the only candidate in this race who a large section of his own party would be happy to replace. While bloggers like to say that Kerry is the "Anybody But Bush" candidate, I'd argue that Bush is -- for conservatives and libertarians, anyway--the "Anybody but a Democrat" candidate."

There's lots more. Then Brain Fertilizer steps in with a persuasive explanation of why things turned out the way they did - but note his last paragraph. Somewhere, M. Simon is smiling. But is Simon right about the coming splits? Courtesy of reader Mike Daley, we have articles looking at each party coalition and its future:

  • Republicans: Innocents Abroad summarizes Cesar & DiSalvo's "A New GOP?" which offers an in-depth examination of the Republican base and the party's emerging foundational message. Will that message survive 2004?
  • Democrats: Mike also recommends "Democrats Adrift" by Clinton Staffer William Galston. The New Deal Coalition, he says, is dead. Judis and Teixeira's "Emerging Democratic Majority" thesis may be a beginning, but at the moment the Democrats are still stuck in performantive contraditions between incompatible interests within their base.

I'll repeat: The 60s are dead - and so are the 80s. For now, the Republicans definitely appear to be in better shape. Nevertheless, both of America's political parties are going to have to find a new way forward in a new era - and both are currently works in progress. Whether they admit it or not.

1 TrackBack

Tracked: March 4, 2006 10:31 PM
Excerpt: Winds of Change.NET's recent article described the "granola conservative" outlook, and explained the niche it filled. Now Jonah Goldberg has a piece up in National Review, ripping the "Crunchy Cons" (NR was where the...

5 Comments

"performantive"? I think you've a good point here, but that one isn't in the dictionary (on line or hardbound).

This is interesting but unlikely, the central problem being that there's as yet no leadership on the other side. The party that should be replacing the Democrats, the Libertarians, are led by the tone-deaf Badnarik. This is a key time, true, but if the Libertarian doesn't seize the day, and soon, it is more likely that a Libertarian uprising will occur within the Democratic party itself.

Tom, sorry. Should be performative

Translates broadly as: embodiment of incompatible hopes and promises to different elements within their base. "Democrats Adrift" explains.

Dex... if there's a libertarian-leaning uprising anywhere, it's likely to be on the Right side of the aisle. The alliance between libertarians, neocons, and social conservatives has a lot of contradictions, and is largely driven by their common enemy (in different areas for each, but still the same enemy) modern liberal-left policies. Even that might not be strong enough, were it not for (a) serious external threats and (b) widespread belief among this base that large sections of the Democratic Party are either sympathetic to the sources of these threats or utterly unwilling to face them in any meaningful way.

I'll add that a schism in a system like America's is no easy feat. It would either have to be a very strong regional party (not likely), a new entity that could put a solid organization on the ground in at least 30 states and field credible candidates (difficult, remember Ross Perot?), or a strong 3rd Presidential/VP ticket coupled with major internal party dissension on one or both sides of the aisle.

Joe, why do you see the formation of a regional party as "not likely"? I would think that the "Red/Blue" split in 2000, and the impending Kerry Krash, points the way to a split in the Democratic party, where the left wing would have a virtual lock on the "BoWash corridor" and the Pacific coast south to somewhere between SF and LA; the right wing (after re-absorbing the "Reagan Democrats") would have varing degrees of strength (but enough to elect a panoply of officials, certainly) in the rest of the Cismississippi.

I had some problems with both of the articles cited. First, how can you discuss the dissolution of the New Deal coalition without mentioning the George Wallace Democrats? After 1968 they weren't welcome in the Democratic Party anymore and, like the boll weevil, were "just lookin' for a home". I'm not convinced that the Republican Party went out of its way to court them but the Democratic Party with its delegate reform measures certainly did go out of its way to dump them. They landed in the Republican Party. Just look at the Republican names in the Senate for the last 30 years. Second, in the reforms I mentioned above the Democratic Party turned distinctly left. I don't see any evidence whatsoever that either success or failure will cause the party to move more to the center. Quite the opposite. A win in November will consolidate the hold of the most left-leaning mainstream segment of the party while a loss in November will most likely cause a purge of everybody but the most left-leaning mainstream segment of the party. Neither approach sounds like a formula for long-term electoral success to me.

Leave a comment

Here are some quick tips for adding simple Textile formatting to your comments, though you can also use proper HTML tags:

*This* puts text in bold.

_This_ puts text in italics.

bq. This "bq." at the beginning of a paragraph, flush with the left hand side and with a space after it, is the code to indent one paragraph of text as a block quote.

To add a live URL, "Text to display":http://windsofchange.net/ (no spaces between) will show up as Text to display. Always use this for links - otherwise you will screw up the columns on our main blog page.




Recent Comments
  • TM Lutas: Jobs' formula was simple enough. Passionately care about your users, read more
  • sabinesgreenp.myopenid.com: Just seeing the green community in action makes me confident read more
  • Glen Wishard: Jobs was on the losing end of competition many times, read more
  • Chris M: Thanks for the great post, Joe ... linked it on read more
  • Joe Katzman: Collect them all! Though the French would be upset about read more
  • Glen Wishard: Now all the Saudis need is a division's worth of read more
  • mark buehner: Its one thing to accept the Iranians as an ally read more
  • J Aguilar: Saudis were around here (Spain) a year ago trying the read more
  • Fred: Good point, brutality didn't work terribly well for the Russians read more
  • mark buehner: Certainly plausible but there are plenty of examples of that read more
  • Fred: They have no need to project power but have the read more
  • mark buehner: Good stuff here. The only caveat is that a nuclear read more
  • Ian C.: OK... Here's the problem. Perceived relevance. When it was 'Weapons read more
  • Marcus Vitruvius: Chris, If there were some way to do all these read more
  • Chris M: Marcus Vitruvius, I'm surprised by your comments. You're quite right, read more
The Winds Crew
Town Founder: Left-Hand Man: Other Winds Marshals
  • 'AMac', aka. Marshal Festus (AMac@...)
  • Robin "Straight Shooter" Burk
  • 'Cicero', aka. The Quiet Man (cicero@...)
  • David Blue (david.blue@...)
  • 'Lewy14', aka. Marshal Leroy (lewy14@...)
  • 'Nortius Maximus', aka. Big Tuna (nortius.maximus@...)
Other Regulars Semi-Active: Posting Affiliates Emeritus:
Winds Blogroll
Author Archives
Categories
Powered by Movable Type 4.23-en