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War, No War, and Adaptation in War: A Sterling Discussion

By Joe Katzman on May 2, 2006 5:00 AM | 5 Comments | 2 TrackBacks

On Saturday, Winds team member and Marshal Callimachus posted an essay "War or No War," sparked by the movie United 93 and comments by Todd Beamer's father.

It's a fine post, and ended up provoking one of the better discussions we've had on this blog - an intense series of back and forth exchanges in the comments that have already created 2 Guest Blog posts (Of Fire Ants and Feedback Loops | The Fire Ants of Allah and Second-Order Effects) from one of the discussion's side-jaunts alone, and may result in one more post from me after this one. I've elevated the post into Winds of Change.NET's "Best Of..." category, and while the post was good it's the discussions that elevated it to this level.

In retrospect, comment #23 by Gabriel Chapman of "The Great Satan" blog, and celebrim's response, were the key catalysts. Gabriel began with:

"I understand that point Joshua, but I just don't see our leaders adapting to the enemy, and countering them effectively...."

If you haven't been following the post and the discussion, you're missing a good one. Start at comment #23 and keep reading....

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5 Comments

LOOSE THE ARMY OF DAVIDS

Joe,

I'm will you all the way. It's time to loose the Army of Davids to bring the truth to the American people.

See RBT's comments re the grave danger we all are facing by Iranian President "MAD" and his religous mentor Imam Yazdi at:

Atlas Shrugs

and

Ray Robison's Blog
[Currently working on translation of the Saddam Regime documents]

It's 1938 all over again!

For those of us in the Blogos who know the truth -

IT'S TIME TO ROLL!

Sorry the link to Ray Robison's is broken in the above link. This one should work. If not just cut/paste to Ray's blog:

http://rayrobison.typepad.com

Ray Robison's Blog

#3 from Joshua | May 2, 2006 3:24 PM | Reply

Not to toot my own horn or anything, but you really should have pointed the link to my comment in that thread (#19) which is what Gabriel is responding to.

#4 from David Blue | May 2, 2006 3:35 PM | Reply

#3 from Joshua: Not to toot my own horn or anything, but you really should have pointed the link to my comment in that thread (#19) which is what Gabriel is responding to.

Here's the link, ready to click on: (link)

#5 from Mark McGilvray | May 2, 2006 10:16 PM | Reply

Joe, I started reading this thread. This is not exactly light reading. It is a terrific series of posts. WoC is an absolute gold mine. Thanks.

PS: For those of you who haven't, take a look - it is excellent.

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